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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 143 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

I read that it makes ICE bigger than the fucking Chinese army. It's beyond obscene. One thing that I wonder about is... are there even enough racist sociopaths in this country to fill the ranks? You need a specific type of person to be willing to join ICE. It's possible that there simply aren't enough Americans who are willing to brutalize immigrants to use the $200 billion they were given.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

54 million MAGA out there. Plenty of jobs. They might not be able to run 50 feet without a smoke break, but they are there.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

In terms of pure numbers, yeah, there are plenty of MAGA out there to hire. But they need to be mentally and physically fit in order to join ICE and carry out these raids. I would be genuinely surprised if there were enough MAGA in this country who could pass the physical.

I could be wrong. But if I'm right they might try hiring literal mercenaries for this, or just embezzle the funds. Or buy stupid militarized vehicles like police departments like to do.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago

they need to be mentally and physically fit

Sweet summer child

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

They need to be mentally fit? What do the mental fitness evaluation standards look like for a brown shirt? I get what you’re saying that traditionally ICE agents may have had those requirements but it’s a new dawn where the only requirements moving forward are going to be MAGA loyalty.

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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is scary about the modern world is just how much damage can be caused by a handful of people thanks to technology. They don't need millions of people to run their gestapo if they have the NSA surveilling the internet, a network of facial recognition enabled surveillance cameras, military gear that would let a handful of agents take on anything short of an armed mob, and drone strikes for the ones they can't even be bothered to capture.

There aren't a lot of psychos, but it really doesn't take that many to cause problems if nobody else has the will or capacity to fight back. And this will make oodles of money for "defense" contractors.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

a network of facial recognition enabled surveillance cameras

One can only hope that a sufficiently-motivated populace can destroy them faster than they can be replaced.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

among the 5 US militaries, ICE is bigger than two of them combined:

US NAVY: $292B

USAF: $249.5B

US Army: $179.4B

ICE: $75B

US marines: $57.2B

US Coast Guard: $14.5 B

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[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yep and what that turns into is instead buying military level expensive equipment to justify the money to make up for each empathetic person who refuses to join ranks.

Dont need unmarked vans and ski masks when you can drive tanks down poor neighborhoods looking fot minorities to abuse.

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

It's possible that there simply aren't enough Americans who are willing to brutalize immigrants to use the $200 billion they were given.

The SS was 800.000 members strong by 1944 so I think you're wrong, there's plenty of people who are willing to brutalize those they seem lesser for a plethora of reasons - money, feeling of power, ideology, opportunism, hate, the ability to do violence without consequences or any number of combinations of those.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I dare say that the Chinese are only all too happy that US is providing outsized budget to an agency that is relatively useless in the grand scheme of things, because the resources would otherwise go to countering China's growing influence.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Death Camps.

We are so far along the nazi playbook we just need to invade Poland I guess.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not before the Olympics. But you can already start killing the disabled. Also look out for the new ICE guys to kill the old ones.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People are already dying in ICE detention. How many for we need to call them death camps?

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

M guessing this is a comparison to the holocaust. Comparing the Ice camps to the holocaust is reducing the holocaust massively, where the word death camp is usually used. During the peak 15000 People were murdered every single day. For 3 Months straight.

The death toll in Auschwitz alone would have been enough to completely depopulate San José, the 10. biggest city in the USA and then some more. The sheer size is nearly incomprehensible.

Yeah the direction is there, but be thankful there is still a long way to go. There is still time to stop it.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 53 points 2 weeks ago

And people are disappearing.

That's the actual point.

Bludgeoningly obviously, ICE had been chosen to be America's Gestapo.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My time will come. Voted (D), protested, and we have a pride flag at our house.

No, I will not leave my country. I will fight to the death when the goons grab me.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Operation Reduce Non-White Vote underway. They clearly rigged the Presidential election results. The results were statistically normal everywhere except in the 7 swing states, where Trump won even though Democrats won the rest of the way down the ballot, and he won by margins that were just shy of what would trigger automatic audits. These anomalies were in the swing states only.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (31 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

It's been pointed out repeatedly that the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Be prepared to have checkpoints everywhere you go.

papers please

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Open ze door, zis is de gestapo!

As an American this makes me weep. We saw this coming from miles away yet here we are.

Those who study world history know damn well that history repeats itself and this "timeline" is a well worn one. We already know where this goes.

I don't know what to think about those who voted for this consciously and even worse those in power who continue to enable this. I hope these people get the outcome they deserve.

For those who voted for this without understanding, let's hope the next government can find a way to better educate you, as this one has let you down.

We'll only get the democracy that we can manage to keep.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

let's hope the next government can find a way to better educate you, as this one has let you down.

If you are talking about the education system then yes.

But let's not gloss over the fact that you can't rely on the government to teach you why what the government is doing is wrong. That is the job of the opposition party. It is the job of political parties to explain why their policies are better.

It's the Democrats who has failed you first and foremost. Then the media. Then the education system.

And honestly, even above the Democrats, it is the two party system that robbed you of choices. In any functional democracy, the Democrats wouldn't survive as they are now. They would either have to improve or be replaced.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

We're about to experience the darkest period of American history in our lifetimes.

Hope everyone is ready.

I'm buying guns.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Americans, please rise and applaud your very own, newly minted, Gestapo

But don't you worry, nothing to worry about, always remember "yOu ARe nOT ThERe yeT" and bravely sit back down

Land of the Free, Home of the Brave... my ass

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Stalin funded his NKVD and Hitler had his RSHA (Gestapo). AOC is correct, Putin's Sock Puppet is using ICE like his secret police force.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago

ICE is being set up to lead the theft of the midterms. I don't mean by just trying to prevent non-white people from voting either, but as the extrajudicial gestapo it is. Americans won't have to be non-white to worry about having their citizenship suspended soon enough.

[–] nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I always wondered if family members of ICE members know that they are members... If I had a cousin that was ICE, I would go absolutely no contact with him, and would let everyone know that the guy is ICE. Wear your shitty mask, but people will know.

Someone should start an ICE database, where pictures of ICE people are posted, even masked. And let people who know them come forward and say "hey. I know the guy in picture X, it is John blabla". Then, bully those pieces of shit out of existence.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

A massively enlarged unaccountable army beholden to Trump, huh can’t imagine what could go wrong.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's very strange timing to do this at a huge scale as the US economy is teetering and the dollar is spiraling. Bread and circuses is the playbook for a reason, their tax bill is going to hit like a brick wall for a lot of Americans. And instead of your pop-pop getting his Medicare check you're now seeing that spent on concentration camps in your back yard.

There's a limit to fear mongering and strong arming when it pushes against economic reality. No amount of crackdowns will help when bread costs $20/loaf, international money stops coming in, and the job market crashes all in less than a few years. It's one thing to manufacture a crisis but they might be burning the Reichstag a little too hot.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The cuts don't come through until after the '26 elections. Fucking Republican cunts will point their short little pudgy fingers at Dems and say,"What did you do?" and idiot fucking voters (or even more idiot single issue non-voters) will grab it like a trout going after a fly.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

oh man chuck schumer's gonna write a letter so sternly worded their heads will spin

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you guys get another left leaning president be better be a socialist dictator. If this is the game now, play it. Next guy better abolish ice

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

That not what they are there for...

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It still doesn't solve the new MAGA party. The republican party is dead. 50 million Americans are MAGA. I don't see how they're getting out of this without going through hell. In other words open warfare.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (26 children)

We were told this was going to happen by those that are making it happen. And still 91 million people chose not to vote. Of those 91 million people- was enough make the difference between keeping our democracy, and….

This.

I hope the smug arrogance of your little protest of a trade-agreement’s support of weaponry to a country using it to commit genocide is going to be enough to keep you properly blinded to the suffering of SO many others as a result of your stubborn refusal to see the bigger picture-

This is your fucking fault.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

An overfunded undisciplined paramilitary of degenerates that couldn't make it through police academy, what could go wrong?

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

God bless the United States of authoritarianism

/s

America is fuckity fuck fucked. Enjoy Americans, this is what you voted for: fascism and tax breaks for billionaires.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's the same as resisting early nazi germany, except now there are cameras and AI's preventing subtle sabotage. And if you tell anyone about it, the whole militarized apparatus crashes down on you.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Here's a breakdown in the funding.

Category Current Funding (2024) Proposed Funding (2025)
Total ICE Budget $13.5 billion $170 billion
Detention Budget $3.5 billion $45 billion
Enforcement Operations $10 billion $29.9 billion
Border Wall Construction -- $46.6 billion
State Reimbursement Grants -- $10 billion
Military Deployment Funding -- $1 billion

It includes hiring 10,000 ICE agents in the next five years.

Source
Source

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[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'll soon start seeing huge investment in trains, and their time-table as well.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Peacefully polite protesting should do the trick. You democrats reading my comment have any thoughts on the Second Amendment now? (Im a socialist and own guns and am not trolling, just want to genuinely ask what a solution is to this)

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As much as I hate the idea of having guns just all around the place in society, I think at this point I'd have gotten one myself if I didn't think I was more likely to kill myself with it than actually do anything useful.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The only response to ice is targeted, coordinated civil (?) resistance. Wherever they show up, show up with more people and guns than ice has

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (25 children)

ICE is starting a civil war, at some point they are going to start getting killed.

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[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My pride flag will still fly. I will still protest. But I will now answer the door, chain bolted, and 9mm pointed through the door.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bad idea. Even pistols can shoot through doors and entry tactics love it when you come to set location.

Get a security camera and if they take it out first... Well, you know what they're there for.

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