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Edited to add - To be clear for anyone, it's Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)

Someone reminded me that I was using dogwhistle parlance in my use of they which may have suggested otherwise.

Here are some visual aids to accompany my clarification:

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The end of that one Brother Ali song, I have no idea who the vocalist for that part is.

 

They keep sayin' we're free...

But we're all just loose.

[–] ratel@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You ain't free, you're just free range.

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[–] lemonskate@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

💯

I had no idea this was showing up a couple months ago, and what a treat it is!

[–] idogoodjob@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Uncle Sam Goddamn

[–] Kobibi@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I know this isn't what you intended, but you gotta be careful on the Internet saying 'guess who 'they' are', cos a lotta places on the Internet ask this and the answer is supposed to be 'jews'

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's a great point that I hadn't considered.

To be clear for anyone, it's Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I thought you just meant capitalists in general, TBH.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was the lizard people?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

What did you think that was a euphemism for?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The illuminati?

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I can't think what else OP could mean though? All the other answers I can think of are too broad and obvious for "three guesses" to be a thing you'd ask.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I thought OP meant billionaires/capitalists. Jews did not even cross my mind.

Edit: clarity

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Right, but saying "three guesses" implies that the answer is something that's slightly hidden. "Capitalists" doesn't really make sense because it's essentially going "three guesses who it is that's doing all this capitalism... that's right, capitalists!". If OP didn't intend it as an antisemitic dogwhistle then it's an odd title for other reasons.

(edit: I just had a glance through their post history and I think it's probably not supposed to be a dogwhistle, but just unfortunately titled; I think maybe OP just assumed everyone reading it were already on the same page on whatever specific thing they themselves blame capitalism on?)

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, but saying "three guesses" implies that the answer is something that's slightly hidden.

Or that it's very obvious and they're being sarcastic.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Your political affiliation based on what came to your mind when you read the title

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

At this point the answer should be billionaires regardless of affiliation.

[–] CmdrKeen@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Found the Left-Libertarian

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

lol. I get the joke. Still, I just think anyone work a working brain should be able to notice that

  • the bourgeoise just follows their masters
  • neither Bezos nor Musk are Jews
  • that “we” are not powerful enough unless we’re billionaires

You can hate Jews, brown people, black people, gingers, trans people and others as much as you want and still recognize that.

Unless your brain isn’t working right (eg MAGA) or you are economically benefiting (eg bourgeoisie). I guess you could put that onto a 2d graph as well.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago

I think the libertarian left quadrant is the only valid one, and it's become very obvious at this point

The global economy is this monster of debt and overly clever math that is actively collapsing, there's no fixing it, and even if we did somehow, each boom-bust is exponentially larger than the last one

And if you take the economy out of the equation, it's a really simple question. Do you want people to suffer or not? Are you pro-horrors beyond comprehension, or do you prefer less suffering?

So yep... We should all be calling them the billionaires at this point

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

A) What the fuck are billionaires? The bourgeoisie.

B) What facilitates this perversion? The bourgeois system.

Billionaires aren't the problem they're the symptoms of disease. Rejection of this fact shows the early stages of your radicalization.

[–] CmdrKeen@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

Accurate AF

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Might as well replace Jews with Muslims these days. Not that the far right types who blame Jews don't exist anymore... most of them just shifted focus.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The F’d up thing is that being solid middle class and having sufficient income to help with a kid’s college money, put away money to actually retire, and pay a mortgage is top 10%. That’s literally what middle class was 50 years ago. Now you have to be a ~10%-er to do it.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I make twice the average household income where I am by myself. I'm doing okay, but like, not great at the same time. How the fuck are other people surviving???

Edit: Just kidding, I got the stats wrong, I make a bit above average household on my own, not twice. Point still stands, however.

[–] Beardsley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Literally everyone.

Most people think this shit. They’re all complicit.

Bloody apathetic species. I’ve no sympathy at all.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't forget the $1.4T/year they took out of the economy to squander on elaborate, invasive, predatory mass surveillance, serial racialized harassment, and overseas mass murder, in the name of peace and security.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They made healthcare a commodity, education a dept trap and housing a speculation market - then told you that poverty is a personal failing. They privatized survival and called it freedom.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

They made healthcare a commodity, education a dept trap and housing a speculation market - then told you that poverty is a personal failing. They privatized survival and called it freedom.

I'm bad about remembering Alt Text apologies. I will edit to add now if it will let me.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

And yet they're all for government intervention when it's stuff like zoning (telling you where and how you're allowed to live) or copyright (telling you what ideas you're allowed to share)...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

If you’re talking about American politics, then yes, both parties uphold capitalism and its innate unjust power structures.

You can vote for the lesser evil all day, but in the end it will take revolution to root out evil entirely.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago

And now they're trying to automate community, the last thing we have. Don't let them!

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Market economy is really really bad in a capitalistic system. One giant buys everything and controls everything.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The education being a debt trap is at least in part due to good intentions gone wrong.

College was a little expensive and they wanted it more accessible, so they tried to make it nice and easy to borrow money.

Universities responded to the influx of cash by... Charging more money...

We tried to fix affordability by just flooding that market with loans with no regulation in place to constrain the universities or the loans.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Reptilians? Bilderbergers? Solarians?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Clearly its the 99.9% of us who are too poor to know any better

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