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Setting aside freedom of speech (as UK already did) why would you raid a suspect in a nonviolent crime with no material evidence to seize? Why not just send a summons?
Though I can answer my own question: state terror campaign to scare population into submission
What is happening in the UK?
You guys went from 0 to authoritarian like very quickly
(New) New Labour got back in power.
Labour are meant to be the left wing workers party. Old school Labour are socialists that brought in such things as the NHS (free healthcare) and The Open University (non-elitist university education open to anybody) in the mid-1900s.
New Labour first came into power in 1997 and left in 2010, they got back in last year (2024). They are not socialist by any means. They pretend at times to be socialist because of the image and reputation of Labour but in reality they're capitalists. These are the people that introduced privatisation into the NHS (so you can only get healthcare for certain things if you are rich enough) and started the Iraq War 2 with Bush. They have always had an authoritarian streak but the socialists still within the party generally managed to hold them off. They had plans for mass surveillance and mandatory ID cards, but never managed to implement it by the time they lost the 2010 election.
Now they're back, and the socialist elements of the party have been shunned ot kicked out, so the authoritarians can near do as they wish now.
In one year they have:
I've been sitting on the toilet too long writing this now so that'll do, but here's some more reading if you wish:
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/05/new-labours-authoritarianism-is-back
https://jacobin.com/2023/06/britain-authoritarianism-keir-starmer-rishi-sunak-public-protest
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24697965.former-mp-quits-labour-blasts-authoritarian-keir-starmer/
Fuck me, it’s got to be pretty miserable being British at the moment?
It’s not like the Tories were doing anything to better their lives, but hold crap Labour are definitely on world record pace speed-running Fascism any%.
Even more miserable being Scottish knowing we could have escaped all this in 2014.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Scottish_independence_referendum
Our devolved parliament is more left wing than Westminster but it has limited powers so our sanctuary is minimal.
There's also the times where Westminster has ruled on things that should be devolved and when it has overruled Scotland.
It's shite being Scottish!
We're the lowest of the low!
The scum of the fucking Earth!
The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash, that was shat into civilisation!
Some people hate the English, I don't! They're just wankers!
We, on the other hand, are colonised by wankers!
Can't even find a decent culture to be colonised by!
We're ruled by effete assholes!
It's a shite state of affairs to be in Tommy, and all the fresh air in the world won't make any fucking difference!
To think the message against independence was something like "keeping the union strong", while at the same time the message for brexit was "better alone" or some shit like that.
Not all that surprising, typical Conservative double-speak (or is it talking out of both sides of their mouth?).
We had something similar here in Australia in the early 2000s, when we voted on a referendum on whether to ditch the Monarchy and become a Republic:
All of the Stay/Remain advertising focused on the message that “this [proposed] Australia’s Not The One”, and inferring that we could have another referendum in the near future with a different form of revised Government. Suffice to say, that was utter bullshit - and we haven’t revisited the topic since.
By then again, we wouldn’t even pass a referendum to allow the Aborigines a Voice in Parliament a few years ago - so we’ve probably rolled backwards also.
Probably not a coincidence New Labour rose around the same time as the US Democrats Third Way neoliberals, whodid much of the same in regards to gutting socialists from the party.
I've been sitting on the toilet too long writing this now so that'll do, but here's some more reading if you wish:
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I bet your legs have fallen asleep.
First time? UK going full auth mode and inspiring a vicious uprising and rebellion is one of the oldest traditions in their culture.
0? Hardly. For a simple pop-culture counterpoint, V for Vendetta was written as an indictment of the UK's slide into fascism. It was published in 1982. Fascism doesn't happen overnight, it's a slow boil erosion of rights and democracy that works in the shadows of government over decades to dissolve checks and balances from the inside and within the law.
They were warned that Labour was fascist but like everywhere else in the wold, just ignored it or didn't care, hell the UK nazi party (aka Reform) is polling very well and dragging Labour and Tory further right.
Arrests for online posts isn't new here.
That's some V for Vendetta shit
Labour being this shit is going to give Britain to Reform. Why do all neoliberals just fuck up absolutely everything? They just can’t help themselves.
Is Starmer a neoliberal though ?
Don't get me wrong, (neo)liberals are politically their own worst enemy most of the time, but at least properly attribute their political shittiness where it belongs.
Starmer is a tory in a red jacket.
Edit : turns out I didn't know what neoliberal meant, Starmer is indeed a neoliberal shitbag.
Seems like a good use of taxpayer money /s
Mr Cobb, who has 2,200 followers on his Facebook page, said he had never attended a demonstration or been a member of Palestine Action – now a proscribed terrorist organisation.
His arrest comes after more than 500 peaceful protesters were arrested at a demonstration in Parliament Square earlier this month for holding placards supporting the group.
Gosh, that must be expensive, protecting us all from old people with t-shirts and Facebook posts. I just hope the UK Government is remembering to keep some of the taxpayers' money back to fund making trans people's lives more difficult every day because JK Rowling. Then they have all the major threats covered and the British people can sleep soundly (until the police smash down the door).
Wow, that guy has to be the most menacing guy I’ve ever seen. I am so scared. The horrors. Absolute horrors. Menace to society. Bring it all down. Thank you! Thank you for keeping us safe! Society would surely collapse if we didn’t drag 52 year old janitors from their beds in the wee hours of the morning for sharing facebook posts. Phew I feel so much safer.
Holy shit this is fucked, no speaking out about the genocide of we'll kick your fucking door in, in a dawn raid, holy shit dystopian
What happen to you, UK? Torries is extremely incompetent, Reform is a fascist group, and Labour is an authoritarian party. It's no wonder why reform got so much popularity.
The tories are a more authoritarian party than labour.
I think there is a world wide shift to authoritarian like systems
It is terrifying
Yeah, i agree, but still. The current shift mean people gonna throw around the "everyone is the same, what's the point of voting" argument next election, which kinda spell the doom of any party that isn't right leaning.
Then fucking vote for the lib dems or the greens.
I've noticed that instead of a slow change in the right direction, people prefer drastic action even if it's in the wrong direction.
Voting in fascism to power is super obvious under this observation
Death, death to the IDF!
If I took a drink every time I posted "this is why I fucking left britain" my liver wouldn't be doing too well.
I’m laughing at all the US emigrants who moved to the UK to avoid fascism.
Even with all the shit happening in the US, you can still post on FB in support of Palestine without getting arrested.
When his housemate answered the door, he said, they barged inside and burst into his bedroom
What an asshole. This is why you need to talk to your housemates and make sure they know their rights.
Never answer the door for police. Just ignore them until they go away.
Does this apply in the UK?
proscription
the action of forbidding something; banning.
I learned a new word today
As a citizen of the UK, I want to say ~~this is disgusting and our nation has gone off the rails~~ I LOVE ISRAEL!!!
Despite agreeing with the sentiment, I just can't bring myself to upvote those last three words.
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
All bobbies are bastards
The police doing this shouldn't be allowed a moment of peace
If I was in the UK, I'd probably already be in jail for this. Or for carrying a 3" pocketknife, or calling my neighbor a fascist and his wife a fat Nazi, or whatever.
American's without guns, here's your preview. They would already be kicking down our doors if there were zero fear of consequence.
Do Americans not have cops already kicking down doors? Only with guns drawn, and dead dogs in their wake.
Breonna Taylor would also like a word, but she was killed in a no knock raid on the wrong house while she slept.
I think government leader are forgetting that one of the core ideas of liberal democracy is to protect individual rights.
I will indeed protect our individual rights if need be. That's not macho talk. Masked men are not dragging my brown wife out of our house, kicking and begging and screaming. I've made the decision, drawn the line, I will fight and die first.
To your point, I think Americans have forgotten that protecting individual rights is a fight that never ends. And yes, sometimes we will die doing so.
American cops have been kicking down doors and shooting the people inside for a long time now. And there's no evidence Americans are using their guns to fight fascism. The gun-loving Americans support fascism and would sooner use their guns to fight democracy.
Where's all the "free speech supporters" now? (like the one who taught his dog to do a nazi salute)
They fully support this.