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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago

When I was learning to drive the thing that took me by surprise the most is how fast the situation can change. You can take your eyes off the road for a second to check your mirror(s), your speed, etc and just in that tiny bit of time the entire situation on the road ahead of you can change dramatically.

Using a phone while driving is negligence of the highest level. It is so incredibly goddamn dangerous that I would possibly argue it should fall under attempted murder instead.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you want to play games/text/watch movies you can also carpool.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Carpooling is just taking a short bus (non-derogatory and second-meaning not intended).

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Being a passenger on a 3DS and such is such a good feeling.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When I tell people that a driver should strive to see 100% of the road where their tires will go when driving, I inevitably get a lot of responses from people who say it's impossible to do. I mean, you don't have to consciously focus on it, just make sure you can see it. That's what I learned in my defensive driving class, and I've been doing it for decades. Obviously, I can't do it perfectly, so there are rare times where I hit a pothole I didn't see, but I don't think you should be driving if you don't try to do this.

I always wonder how many potholes/animals/small children these people hit with their cars.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If it's impossible to do, that's a good reason to reject the idea of everyone driving in the first place.

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[–] lgsp@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

Obviously, I can't do it perfectly, so there are rare times where I hit a pothole I didn't see, but I don't think you should be driving if you don't try to do this.

I agree. Even looking the road all the time you can't see everything at the same time: there are the mirrors, there is stuff far away, there is stuff close. I really can't drive if I don't pay attention the the roaf

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[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This meme implies this is only an issue of personal responsibility ; but in truth to actually lower car deaths we need a systemic approach.

Think of cigarette companies laying blame at "addictive personalities". They knew making people personally responsible would not threaten their business, whereas public policies against tobacco did.

This post is doing the same thing : when an accident happens we should not just ask "who is to blame?" but also "how do we prevent it in the future?", which in this case means redesigning streets to be friendlier to pedestrians and developing other modes of transportation.

Design infrastructure to be actively hostile to cars. It's the best way to be pro environment, pro bike, pro a better future

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[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago

Thinking about that cab driver who was so pissed when I asked him to please not watch a movie while driving. dude had a tablet attached to the window in front of him

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Taking the train/subway/tram/bus is just like having your own personal chauffeur.

I hate driving myself anywhere like a "peasant". All the rich folks outsource mundane tasks like driving or cutting ones lawn, that how they stay rich!

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[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Honestly, automatic transmissions becoming the standard was a determent to driving safety.

I read driving is boring, it's not when you have a stick shift to pay attention to.

It's also harder to speed with a manual transmission I think. Maybe not on a highway, but on roads with lower speed limits, you can really feel/hear the engine when you're going to fast in a lower gear. Sometimes too lazy to shift into fourth gear, when I know Ill have to downshift again anyway for a turn or corner. So I just won't speed and stay in in third gear.

With automatics you can access so many more distractions.

This is just a thought

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't shift up because you're lazy.

I don't shift up because my shit box actually starts making power around 3k rpms

We are not the same

Super agreed that automatic transmission makes drivers less aware and should not be what people learn to drive with.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm a school bus driver. I actually had the dispatcher last year tell me that it was legal to drive 5 miles an hour over the posted speed limit. I was like "so the posted speed limit isn't the posted speed limit?" It's amazing the crazy shit that gets into the heads of people that should know better -- which is fucking everybody.

It should come as no surprise that some of my fellow drivers text, doom-scroll Facebork, and watch movies while driving the buses. I've never seen someone doing it with actual kids on the bus, but I think that's only because they know the kids might rat them out for it.

A few of them vape on the buses, too.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 45 minutes ago

i'd imagine many countries still have the "you can't drive faster than is safe" rule anyways, i know we have it in sweden.
Like no you can't drive 80km/h through 1m visibility fog, if you can't see shit you drive at walking speed and appreciate the fact that you have a comfortable vehicle to sit inside instead of having to actually walk.

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The speed limit is the maximum, but it is also the minimum if you're the kind of person the police are looking for an excuse to pull over.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In places where people follow speed limits more than half of the cars are going 5km/h (3mph) below the limit because their speedometer lies and they don't know. I doubt those people increase their chance of being stopped by police

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Does this actually hold up in court? The whole case could be thrown away if there was never a reasonable reason for the traffic stop in the first place.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

No, but we have such a Byzantine legal code that they can often concoct some plausible sounding legal justification anyway.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Depends what the law is where you are, I imagine. I would imagine what constitutes a reasonable suspicion of driving without due care and attention is down to officer discretion. If they wrote you up for only that (assuming the officer does not decide to start suspecting other things, now that they've got you there) and you decide to take your chances challenging it in court you'd have a pretty good chance of winning, but of course they make the punishment for taking it to court and losing excessively harsh in comparison to the ticket in order to discourage you from doing that.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I've never heard of a case in traffic court where your outcome is worse than the original ticket, except in cases where an officer has reduced 30 over the limit to 20 over the limit, in which case there is a chance you will be charged with 30 over if you lose the case.

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[–] lgsp@feddit.it 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I just want to credit the author(s) who happen to be in the fediverse, too: @howdoyouguide@mastodon.social

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

The fedi-memes are becoming self sustaining!

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

it's mind blowing how we are expected to all regularly use a giant dangerous machine like that.

imagine cooking, but the oven can explode at any moment and you have to pay 100% attention all the time while baking, because at any moment, if it were to explode and kill you and everyone in the room, you only have 0.2 seconds to react and not die.

such oven would never exist, but a car?

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh my god if I could take a train to work I would be soooooo happy.

1: trains

B- I could leave slightly later and be relaxed most of the time

III• if there's dense fog like today or severe weather, I don't have to stress out for 30 minutes going 20 in a 55 because I can't see 150ft ahead of me.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I had a 55-minute commute by train for a few years and it was absolutely wonderful. It was two hours a day of time to read, or if I was still tired I would just nap the whole way. TBF it really helped that my station was 5 minutes from my house and the train let me off literally in the basement of the building I worked in.

Then I changed jobs and had a 45-minute commute by car, and that shit was just nightmare fuel.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 41 minutes ago

if we all woke up from our collective nightmare and started building dense housing around railway stations, living 5 minutes from your station could be reality for 80% of the population

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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (14 children)

This post rubs me the wrong way because it shifts blame for a systemic issue onto individual drivers. There are a lot of drivers that should not be on the road but they are forced onto the road by a lack of viable alternatives. The resulting consequences should be blamed on those planning decisions, not on the individuals.

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Driving is fucking boring. Let one person do it, take the bus or train

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

If aggressively bad drivers could read they'd be quite upset about this.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Dont review the PR while driving

https://lemmy.world/post/36524839

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

But you don't understand, they have to speed up to tickle their adrenaline just so the commute isn't boring, and texting to maximise their time.

(real argument, i'm not even kidding.)

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The WHOLE time? Can I not blink!!!

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can drive slower.

You will want to check your local laws on this one. Where I am the minimum speed limit is 20mph below the maximum unless otherwise posted (usually on highways where it will be posted 85/60 or something).

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Sounds like you can drive slower.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I ride a motorcycle. Whenever I see someone driving like they're drunk, I try to see if I can pull beside them and have a look. Lo and behold, 95% of the time, they're on their phone.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think distracted driving is way more dangerous than fast driving, assuming the person going 10mph over is paying attention. That said, people are terribly bad at understanding where and why you should be proceeding slowly.

Freeway? Yeah fine whatever. Blind intersection? Fucking slow down.

[–] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Dont know about other states but in california since covid speed of traffic went from 3-5 over the limit to 10% over the limit, rounded up for speeds over 50. 72 in a 65, 49 in a 45. Something new and infuriating is the number of people who think taking their foot off the brake is enough acceleration to get through an intersection, and the people who think 35 is an acceptable speed to merge onto the freeway.

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