Looking at America, obviously Nazism isn't banned, we have elected a ton of the fuckers.
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Because those same countries were never ideologically opposed to fascism in the first place. America was a major inspiration for Hitler, namely in its jim crow laws and eugenics. Before world war 2, America loved Hitler. And the western powers are the reason why Zionism exists as an influential ideology to begin with. Britain gave the land for zionists to colonize to begin with. All of these same countries also committed the same atrocities themselves when colonizing places like the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Liberal governments have never been opposed to colonialism, genocide, or fascism.
Because being involved in international politics at the state level has a similarly effect on one's morals as the One Ring
Being a Nazi is not only not banned in most countries, in some like the US it's explicitly legal (i.e. "Freedom of Speech"). That said, it is (kinda) banned in Germany, yet they are still around over here, because you can't ban people from believing in stuff.
All a state can do is to try and prevent them from gaining too much traction, and I do not feel like Zionism has all that much tbh. Israel's recent actions are very unpopulat in the west, even though most people are not even affected by them in the slightest. Many of the people who protest them probably have no direct connection to Israel or Gaza. So what's the goal of a ban even?
I can only speak for Germany, but here an Israeli sniper and alledged murderer fled the country, bacause he is being persecuted for warcrimes, i.e. the murder of civilians. You also cannot call for the extermination of anyone without riscing consequences. This does not prevent people from being Nazis, Zionists or anything else. It just sanctions them for publicly expressing it.
also because legally buying land in, and migrating back to, a country from which your descendants came is not a crime
IMO it's because the western oligarchs are making bank selling military tech to israel.
And getting land and other natural resources, likely.
What land? The booby trapped gravel pit that used to be Gaza? Nobody wants that.
Also, climate change isn't going to be too kind to the area
Why would you say something so devoid of public knowledge or forethought? Settlers want it, because they claim it. Trump is talking about Trump Resort there.
Since other Westerners are paying, it's not actually a net gain.
People are still pretty sorry about the Holocaust, there's Christian mysticism associated with it, the Middle East is a rough neighborhood and Zionists have all of those things to great effect.
Just like most "rough neighborhoods" in the States, it is kept that way by the CIA and capital owners (ie, the empire) to uphold the threats of capitalism
What about the space aliens? /s
Are you suggesting this is some fringe conspiracy? Lol. Lmao.
The part where the US contributed to the region sucking is real, although it goes back past the American century as well. The rest sounds (ahem) very Lemmy.
The rest? The part about US cities? Never heard of the crack epidemic, or the MOVE bombings in philli, or the Tulsa massacre, or COINTELPRO? The list goes on.
I get that head-in-sand is easier but this is declassified, [relatively] well known stuff and this isnt even starting with the 21st century
Nazism isn’t “banned” per se, at least in the U.S. as the First Amendment does not allow for viewpoint discrimination, however repugnant a viewpoint might be. But the First Amendment does not protect against cultural, social, or other forms of non-government backlash for those who support disgusting ideologies like Nazism.
So there is no “banning” that could take place of the Zionist viewpoint, if we were to consider it on par with Nazism. By and large in the U.S., Zionism and Nazism are not seen as equally repugnant viewpoints in the cultural landscape, hence the difference in how supporters of these views are treated. Hope that makes sense.
Because Zionism is not per se a problematic thing let alone comparable to Nazism. It's basically the idea that Jews should have their own nation in any form or shape. It's a national liberation movement.
What Netanjahu and his racket is making out of it is Religious or Revisionist Zionism specifically. And it's at least slightly problematic comparing that to Nazism as well.
t’s basically the idea that Jews should have their own nation in any form or shape.
Honestly I don't see how ethnonationalism is a positive idea no matter what the ethnicity is
I mean, there's also the whole issue of the planned site for the state being occupied, and not even wanting to share with the original inhabitants.
Less problematic than Nazism, though? Sure.
I mean, before starting with Zyclon-B, also the Nazis wanted the Jews to just move to Madagascar.
So I really just see a temporal offset.
It's not uncommon for ethnic conflicts in general, but there's a lot of extra dimensions in the Nazi case. The Jewish conspiracy that handed WWI to the Entante and was also behind communism somehow was always a centerpiece of their whole ideology.
And obviously, Nazis didn't just go after Jews. They make up about half of the Holocaust and are dwarfed by random war casualties, often civilian. If they won the plan was to kill a good share of all Slavs and bring back slavery for the rest. There's nobody more recent I'd say are on the same tier except maybe ISIS.
However, the problem is that these extremist influences are not a new occurrence in Zionism but have been a part of it since the beginning of the political movement. The question of how to deal with the fact there was basically no habitable place on earth left uninhabited to found a state in, was answered very differently by different parts of the movement.
because Nazis was the enemy and declared war on them while Zionists are the west allies.
Mostly because a lot of western nations got occupied/ bombed by the Nazis, but not by zionists
Sadly, Nazism isn't banned in most western countries.
They couldn't even get that right.
Law is a social construct
The people deciding what gets banned are zionists.
That sound an aweful lot like a conspiracy.
Not really. They're pretty open about it. A lot of them campaign on it.
Nazism isn't banned anywhere. If it were, Zionism and any other nationalism would most certainly be banned.
To answer your question, because it serves capital.
Basically, because NATO and Russia are in an economic stand-off where Iran is the key, and Israel is really the only plausible excuse for the US to invade Iran
NATO and China.
Russia is a pawn in the game now.
They have the same intent, but there's no proof that there is a plan to really actively murder all Palestinians. Also, people in Gaza now have about as much food to eat as inmates of Nazi concentration camps had in the first half of 1940's, but the rest of the horrible torture is not being done.
So, basically, people are okay with what the Nazis did between 1932 and 1941. But from 1941 onwards, Nazis went over some line that is not acceptable.
In my opinion, Nazis were horribly evil already in 1932 and what they did back then was already absolutely condemnable, but it seems that most people in our society don't share my view on this. You are allowed to commit a genocide using starvation and bullets, like the Nazis did until 1941, but when you start using actual gas chambers, it becomes a no-no.