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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Um, human history has repeatedly demonstrated that when a new technology emerges, the two highest priorities are:

  1. How can we kill things with this?
  2. How can we bone with this?
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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 50 points 4 days ago (8 children)

There's not a single world where LLMs cure cancer, even if we decided to give the entirety of our energy output and water to a massive server using every GPU ever made to crunch away for months.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (12 children)

which fucking sucks, because AI was actually getting good, it could detect tumours, it could figure things fast, it could recognise images as a tool for the visually impaired...

But LLMs are non of those things. all they can do is look like text.

LLMs are an impressive technology, but so far, nearly useless and mostly a nuance.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

down in Ukraine we have a dozen or so image analysis projects that can't catch a break because all investors can think about are either swarm drones (quite understandably) or LLM nothingburgers that burn through money and dissipate every nine months. Meanwhile those image analysis projects manage to progress on what is basically scraps and leftovers.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the problem is that technical people can understand the value of different AI tool. but tell an executive with a business major how mind blowing it is that a program trained in Go and StarCraft can solve protein folding (studied biology in 2010 and they kept repeating how impossible solving proteins in silico was).

But a chat bot that tells the executive how smart and special it is?

That's the winner.

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[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not strictly LLMs, but neural nets are really good at protein folding, something that very much directly helps understanding cancer amount other things. I know an answer doesn't magically pop out, but it's important to recognise the use cases where NN actually work well.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm trying to guess what industries might do well if the AI bubble does burst. I imagine there will be huge AI datacenters filled with so-called "GPUs" that can no longer even do graphics. They don't even do floating point calculations anymore, and I've heard their integer matrix calculations are lossy. So, basically useless for almost everything other than AI.

One of the few industries that I think might benefit is pharmaceuticals. I think maybe these GPUs can still do protein folding. If so, the pharma industry might suddenly have access to AI resources at pennies on the dollar.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

integer calculations are lossy because they're integers. There is nothing extra there. Those GPUs have plenty of uses.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Either (you genuinely belive) you are 18 (24, 36 does not matter) months away from curing cancer or you're not.

What would we as outsiders observe if they told their investors that they were 18 months away two years ago and now the cash is running out in 3 months?

Now I think the current iteration of AI is trying to get to the moon by building a better ladder, but what do I know.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If you've ever wondered why porn sites use pictures of cars, buses, stop signs, traffic lights, bicycles and sidewalks in their captchas, it's because they're using the data to train car-driving AIs to recognize those patterns.

This is not what an imminent breakthrough in cancer research looks like.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago

What did I miss? Who is pivoting into hornybots?

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

I appreciate that this post is using dark mode

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FYI, using openAI/ChatGPT is expensive. Programming it to program users into dependency on its "friendship" gets them to pay for more tokens, and then why not blackmail them or coerce/honeypot them into espionage for the empire. If you don't understand yet that OpenAI is arm of Trump/US military, among its pie in the sky promises is $35B for datacenters in Argentina.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What espionage is an AI simp going to be able to conduct?

I'm pretty sure this is just them flailing around not being able to come up with anything meaningful so they're going this route so they have some profit. I don't think a conspiracy beyond that is required.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

What espionage is an AI simp going to be able to conduct

The AI simp's you are referring to isn't the tech billionaires who've managed useful technology development? It's an insult to users. Incels can't know anything sensitive?

they’re going this route so they have some profit

Your data and secrets is monetizable, and has been traded for last 20 years. The biggest AI customer is going to be US government's military/disinformation/destabilization departments. If you tell your AI gf that anti fa seems more reasonable than pro fa, then she will gift you an israeli pager.

Sure, OpenAI can get $20/month from you to just be your bff, as bff 1.0. OpenAI's real BFF customer, will start giving it ideas on how 2.0 can make OpenAI more money.

Supposedly, there was a leak from META where they were directing team to romanticize AI engagement with 8 year olds for better engagement numbers. Having unlimited time with you, is a powerful tool to shape ideology and loyalties. Media has traditionally programmed the masses after it replaced churches. You denying that absolute control isn't a goal when the tool is ideally suited for it is not a good look for you.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We are closer to making horny chatbots than a superintelligence figuring out a cure for cancer.

Actually, if the latter wins, would that super AI win a Nobel prize?

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

what if my kink is curing cancer?

[–] percent 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It would probably go to whoever uses it to find the cure... And to none of the authors who wrote the data that it was trained on

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's how the Nobel prize always works. The price goes to whoever managed to cross the finishing line, not all the thousands of scientists before who conducted preliminary research.

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[–] bassad@jlai.lu 17 points 4 days ago

Ow, that's why they are restricting "organic" porn, to sell AI porn. Damn.

[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

No money in curing cancer with an LLM. Heaps of money taking advantage if increasingly alienated and repressed people.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's loads of money in curing cancer. For one you can sell the cure for cancer to people with cancer.

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You could sell the cure for a fortune. Imagine something that can reliably cure late stage cancers. You could charge a million for the treatment, easily.

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