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[–] minticecream@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (5 children)

At this point, seems like it’s best to boycott everything. Live in a cave, with a box of scraps.

[–] CubitOom 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The homespun movement was started in 1767 by Quakers in Boston, Massachusetts, to encourage the purchase of goods, especially apparel, manufactured in the American Colonies. The movement was created in response to the British Townshend Acts of 1767 and 1768, in the early stages of the American Revolution.

-- https://www.timesmojo.com/what-was-the-homespun-movement-in-india/

Its amazing that in the 1700s people realized they could resist oppression by introducing more self reliance and community solidarity, but today, making things that we all need without corporate middlemen seems impossible.

Maybe it's time we consider what the true cost of the goods we consume are, and how we can collectively make a difference.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Farmer's markets are a great way to buy local, I know we are going into fall and winter but I always find great produce and food

Yeah, just looking at the tech side of this, I suppose that you could get a Linux phone from some start up company and be completely disconnected from all the services everyone else uses, but in terms of price and availability, that's for hipsters and enthusiasts, not the average Joe on a working class wage.

Until someone is able to mass produce basic Linux touchscreen phones with something comparable to WhatsApp and all the other social apps and shit, nothing is going to take down Google Android. And having a pricey, concept Linux phone will always be a hobbyist thing because everyone else is using a different messenger app.

The problem is that all of these companies own the market on the cheap crap that their wage slaves can afford. Buying local or going out of your way to support the smaller companies is fucking expensive.

I don't know what will change things now short of a total revolution.

Do you wanna invent an arc reactor?

Because that is how you invent an arc reactor!

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago

Sounds like you are catching on to their plan.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] stray@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because it's almost impossible to go about your day without engaging with a product or service that isn't rooted in someone's exploitation. The entire system of capitalism is geared around it.

The guy living off the grid in the Good Place television series is an example of the lengths one has to go to in order to avoid contributing to harm.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Then do you believe it's likely that any large share of people would really go live in caves as you suggest? Where would we even find that many caves, or any other similar lodging, for such a number of people?

Do you understand that many people interpret your words as "you shouldn't do anything, because you cannot reach perfection anyway?"

Of course the minimizing of others' exploitation is something to strive for, so you helping implant such a mindset is very damaging.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump Ballroom Supporters - Alphabetized

Corporations:

  • Altria Group, Inc.
  • Amazon
  • Apple
  • Booz Allen Hamilton
  • Caterpillar, Inc.
  • Coinbase
  • Comcast Corporation
  • Google
  • Hard Rock International
  • HP Inc.
  • Lockheed Martin
  • Meta Platforms
  • Micron Technology
  • Microsoft
  • NextEra Energy, Inc.
  • Palantir Technologies Inc.
  • Reynolds American
  • Ripple
  • T-Mobile
  • Tether America
  • Union Pacific Railroad

Individuals and Family Foundations:

  • Adelson Family Foundation
  • Benjamin Leon Jr.
  • Betty Wold Johnson Foundation
  • Cameron Winklevoss
  • Charles and Marissa Cascarilla
  • Edward and Shari Glazer
  • Harold Hamm
  • J. Pepe and Emilia Fanjul
  • Kelly Loeffler and Jeff Sprecher
  • Konstantin Sokolov
  • Paolo Tiramani
  • Stefan E. Brodie
  • Stephen A. Schwarzman
  • The Laura & Isaac Perlmutter Foundation
  • The Lutnick Family
  • Tyler Winklevoss

Edit: Feel free to add verifiable knowledge to this reorganized list in comments...

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As a European, at this point I'm just gonna save myself some time and just boycott anything American

EDIT: I literally JUST realized I am literally in a "BoycottUnitedStates" group. Oh my god... I need to take a break from scrolling haha! No wonder this comment was so popular! haha

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Isn't that what pretty much everyone was doing already?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Have you not been doing that? If you want to have the largest impact, go after the big money. Stop using US tech, switch to open source.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Is this the first step to Idiocracy’s White House? - brought to by Carls Jr..

[–] vateso5074@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I no longer feel bad about the Winklevoss twins being screwed over by Mark Zuckerberg. I mean, I had a feeling they were already rich assholes anyways, but I guess the enemy of my enemy can still be my enemy.

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

Oh man, the Wonklevoss twins are out there investing in basically everything that is making the internet shitty today. Do not discredit them. They're just as much a part of the problem

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Trying to boycott US is like trying to boycott China. I'm not saying you should not, but it is a game of whack-a-mole.

[–] gazby@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Seeing the Winkelvi here has me like

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah these guys turned their small Facebook fortune into a major crypto fortune. I'm certain their benefiting heavily by the current crypto-friendly government.

[–] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They own one of the largest crypto exchanges, Gemini. Naturally they had to match Coinbase.

[–] gazby@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

But of course 🫠

[–] seitzer@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this...the Epstein List? I mean, it's the Epstein-Ballroom, so it makes sense. Genius!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Peter Thiel from palantir is on the Epstein list

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Im now even more happy that I refuse to buy any HP products. I used to own a HP laptop but it broke due to a classic HP issue (hinge problems).

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

LMAO! I just took mine in for the same issue! Glad I gave my money to the repair guy instead of the shitty trump lapdogs. Said I was cuttin it close and that it'd nearly cracked the palmrest near the power button, but he managed to salvage it with a few used parts!

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't boycott a monopoly.

[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 1 points 6 days ago

Depends on the products or services it's providing

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PC parts manufacturer Crucial == Micron.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Interesting. If you would, please add this in comments to my reorganized list here...

https://lemmy.world/comment/20138343

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How do I avoid T-Mobile when I don't want anything to do with Verizon or ATT?

I do need some degree of cell access for work.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Best thing to do is just choose an MVNO or prepaid that uses one of the other networks. That's the problem with boycotts in an oligopoly of something "needed" - one can't easily full-boycott.

Choosing something that costs you $25/mon versus a $110/mon post-paid plan hits them in their ARPU (average revenue per user) which is a metric carriers heavily try to keep looking good to make shareholders happy.

Only caveats, is MVNOs often do not have domestic roaming, nor access to accessory products you might need for service. Carrier prepaid often does, although sometimes it is a bit less. They also tend to have less priority, and some will plug their QCI level as being on par with a carrier plan (which is a network priority tier at the radio level) but they can and do still get traffic-shaped below primary carrier/post-paid/business/responder traffic.

Domestic roaming is not such a big concern in most developed areas of the country these days, but some places like the Intermountain West do still have a lot of off-carrier roaming where your phone will just stop working when you are domestic roaming.

Some sources from that "other" social site to compare:

https://prepaidcompare.net/

https://www.bestphoneplans.net/

Also, while AT&T and Verizon have storied histories for various reasons, they at least haven't used mango 1.0 and mango 2.0 to manipulate their position in the market like T-Mobile did. They're greedy shits and do terrible things themselves, but somehow the mostly German- and partly Japanese-owned (not a bias against those two nations, just pointing out the odd hypocrisy, looking down upon us while profiting from our wallets) T-Mobile is capitalizing on manipulating our markets, regs, and laws to give themselves a leg up above the other two.

FWIW, AT&T has the most square miles of coverage in the US, but it tends to be razor thin in rural areas. AT&T has been very sluggish on upgrading their network, in many markets they broadcast the 5G network flag so your phone says 5G, but they run on old LTE equipment, or run a tiny 5G carrier on ancient hardware on their old 850MHz band to claim it is "real". They always tend to work for basic voice and text, and some data just about anywhere. Verizon hasn't ever back-filled their CDMA holes across the US after their 2023 CDMA shutdown, and actually roam on AT&T in places where their gaps are huge. They have done a great job of updating their network in populated or even semi-populated areas, on par with or surpassing T-Mobile. They also didn't buy spectrum for 12 years, so they have a huge spectrum gap compared to the other two, so if you're in a busy traffic market, you may have a poor experience.

Wireless in the US is stupid, for so many reasons.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

I appreciate you.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Walmart. I already arranged that. They want login info?

User Email: irrelevant@dispostable.com

Password: Walmart1

Fuckem, last I checked, that still works for Walmart.

It's registered to the name Anonymous Human.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's about harm reduction...

Verizon: Donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration

AT&T: Donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration

T-Mobile: Donated millions to Trump's ballroom, agreed to run the network for Trump Mobile, partnered with and promoted Musk's Starlink, ended DEI to bend the knee to Trump

I know who I'm not choosing.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's great but i need it in hosts or uBlock format (and each one of them has probably 100 domains).

[–] Zonefive@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Happily surprised to not see USAA on this list.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are these just Trump campaign supporters or did they specifically support this mad vandalism? When did Trump ask for money for this?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They suck his [redacted], obviously...

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Surprised by the lack of Nvidia and OpenAI

[–] tfm@piefed.europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago

They are busy moving money between themselves

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Literally easier to boycott business altogether than try and track why we should boycott individual businesses.

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yep. My coworker and I we're discussing that this very morning seeing as how our MIC company is on there. Of course we've been trying to gtfo for a while now, so yeah.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wtf ripple

Edit: not the pea milk, sick. LOL

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Only thing I own from anything here is a Caterpillar phone, they don't make them anymore though.