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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 178 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Easy. First you survey the existing literature for your theory. Chances are, somebody already came up with it, or, more likely, debunked it. If that's not the case, you write up a paper, presenting your theory together with its supporting evidence and submit it through the usual channels. I know that sounds pretty discouraging, but the chance of some rando contributing something meaningful are pretty close to zero

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 116 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These people went through the process I described above. I'm not saying you need a degree to do scientific work. I'm saying you need to do scientific work to achieve scientifically relevant results.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

These aren't coming out of nowhere however. They are obviously being exposed to new material through their education and then extrapolating into some new tangent. These aren't epiphanies that just happen later in life unless you are working to understand these concepts. Not saying it can't be done, it just hasn't been done yet, and every generation builds upon the foundation of what came before it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

And this would be larger with better education.

Because it's not always about the "potential of the student" if there's no support or validation.

Finland didn't have a gifted program, you're not supposed to be better at anything than others. Except in sports, where it's the whole thing.

There were special programs for slow kids. But none for fast ones.

First grade teacher put me in an empty classroom to read by myself when everyone else was just learning what sounds different letters make.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nothing kills my motivation more than discovering something new in math and then finding out some dead guy beat me to the punch by several centuries lol

Then again sometimes it’s worse when I expect there to be literature on a topic and then discovering there isn’t even a wiki page for it.

Hell, most recently it was bi-intuitionistic logic. Originally studied in the 40s by one German guy who took bad notes. Main body of work done by a single math grad in the 70s (Rauszer) culminating in her PhD. Turns out there were errors discovered in her proofs and it was proven inconsistent in 2001. Only for two relatively young mathematicians to clear up that there are two separate versions of bi-intuitionistic logic which are consistent. This discovery and proof are found a paper that was published only this fucking year.

I asked a simple question about dealing with uncertainty in a logical system and instead of finding a well studied foundation of knowledge I was yeeted to the bleeding edge of mathematics.


Edit: in case it isn’t clear, by “new things” I mean new to me not new to the world; hence the aforementioned dead guys with published works on the topic. And when I say I was yeeted to the edge of math, I should mention that edge is well beyond my capacity to further. I had to learn a lot about notation for logic just to parse the paper, and I’m sure I still don’t fully understand it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Nothing kills my motivation more than discovering something new in math and then finding out some dead guy beat me to the punch by several centuries lol

This is literally the heart of science and physics, it's how every single great mind has made advancements and gotten recognized, by building on the works of those who came before them and finding new ways to connect and test models. If you're "discovering" things that other people have before, that means you're on the right track, now you just need to put the work in validating and verifying your model or expanding on the models that others have developed.

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes but what if they feel REALLY clever???? U expect me 2 go thru all dat work? Ffs smh rn ngl u cap I swear.

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Someone give them the Nobel price already!

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

He's got my vote.

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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I would love to know how many peer-reviewed papers have been published from independent authors with no degree or university affiliation, if any.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Does this guy count? He's been peer-reviewed a bunch I reckon.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

They have some chance if they wrote code to find a counterexample to some obscure math conjecture

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 68 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh you're a programmer? I have this app idea...

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago

No! I've seen this Rick and Morty episode!

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[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Write letters to the press. Ripped from Control:

Dear New York Tribune,

Airplanes aren't real. I figured out how they do it.

The windows are TV screens. The whole thing moves on big tracks like a rollercoaster that moves through underground tunnels in the Earth. Airports are more like train stations.

They do this because the sky is full of monsters that they don't want us to know about. The planes we see in the sky are the monsters. The government made the Earth-trains look like the monsters so they could lie to us better.

Don't contact me.

Not real, obviously, but clearly the most effective tactic when no one takes your 100% legit theories seriously.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

AMAZING game. The Dead Letters department might be my favorite section of The Oldest House

[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Absolutely, although I'm a Containment/Panopticon fan myself. Langston's dialogue is great, especially in the AWE dlc. Dead Letters is close behind though. The fish letter is excellent.

Playing AW2 right now after having watched a Quantum Break playthrough, so I've got the Remedyverse on my mind constantly and see it in everything. Such a dope company, can't wait for the next control. I think it's next on their development list, so hopefully soon!

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[–] pulsey@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

You convinced me.

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

First of all, if you have a theory they rejected, clearly its because they are afraid of your massive intellect, pure jealousy to the point of refusing you entirely. So that means your theory is 100% fact, and you should write a book all about how you are a genius ahead of their time, and sell it on Amazon becoming a number 1 best seller and use that to propel you into micro-celebrity status and live off the royalties because thats what smart people do. Duh.

[–] Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

And go on the Joe Organ podcast ofc

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[–] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

Graham Hancock moment

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Slow down there, we can't ALL get cabinet positions in the current US presidential administration.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are 99 crackpots for every genius without a degree.

[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But that 1 in a billion could change the world

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Genius is what the ignorant call the results of dedication, a genius wouldn't let that stop them.

Now, that dedication becoming obsession and breeding mental illness like rabbits, that'll stop a genius.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"I have theories" is great, everyone should have theories and ideas.

But if you can't connect them to understood, known physics and systems that have been demonstrated over and over again for centuries, you're not really contributing anything.

"I have ideas for a really cool race car shape. I don't know anything about formula 1, I just have this neat idea. Why won't professional teams who demonstrate their efforts daily take my design seriously?"

Go to school, educate yourself with online courses, read every possible criticism or attack on theory, be your own worst critic and THEN if it survives knowledge and critique, you have a chance of being seen and noticed. This isn't about "encouragement" or "making someone feel better" and it's certainly not a plot by Big Science to keep the little man down, this is just how the process works and why you have phones and video games and soda dispensers.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

1705542 is a prime number. How can I get my proof published?

[–] JustAnotherRando@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I appreciate that you chose an even number to claim as prime so nobody even has to check it.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hey, not all primes are odd numbers! Give my man 2 some consideration dawg

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It reminds me of this...

My brother in law was telling me about this amazing new tech called a Thunderstorm Generator which apparently filters out carbon from combustion engines. After seeing this... I just can't... It's too much...

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That chart...

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That wiki entry really does it no justice. That website was a raw stream of unhandled brain-gasm. It should have been preserved. Or maybe it was too dangerous exist.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's the last archive.

CW: everything but misogyny, it's remarkable how little misogyny there is in a schizophrenic screed against Jewish, black, queer, and educated people

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck sake not time cube again lol.

"I'm bi-racial"

"You're WHAT?!"

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 9 points 3 weeks ago

They put a lot of effort for that pdf...jeez, who wrote that should write more sci-fi or fantasy in general lol

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Hi. People contact me with theories all the time based on my published research. They tend to come from an oversimplified view of the problem.

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[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's a special kind of stupid to be too stupid to understand that you're stupid, to be so stupid you think you're smart. Man, what a life that must be, blissful ignorance.

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

The maths department in my uni receives (or did when I was there) several proofs every year on general formulas to solve equations of degree >5.

[–] NaibofTabr 15 points 3 weeks ago
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

The biggest problem is that your theories are not going to equate to the depth, degree, and experience of people who've been over a decade in Universities studying their own, who receive grants and everything to do so. It may be a revolutionary theory, but every scientist has got their own. That's what you are competing against. Hell, there are plenty of brainiacs at each other's throats over whose theory they believe is right.

I have a personal theory that I believe can encompass a lot of phenomenon, but I lack the graduate level experience or the extraordinary intelligence to raise eyebrows, so it has to remain largely faith based. There are much more knowledgeable people who dismiss the basic core tenets of it. And unless you map it out onto some real math and start making predictions that can raise eyebrows, it will remain that, faith-based. Society doesn't give a shit about ideas, they give a shit about implementations of those ideas.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 9 points 3 weeks ago
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

ITT: Science and Engineering users debunking others attempts to contribute from an entry level

And then there's Maths where all you need is a fresh pair of eyes.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody likes idea guys. They disappeared for the most part since they figured out they can type their braindead ideas into genAI, but if I had a dollar for every "what if AAA game, but VR/other bad twist" ideas people wanted me to make, then I'd be a millionnaire.

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