Sony added a screen to their controller to create a handheld, whereas Valve removed the screen from their handheld to create a controller.
Steam Hardware
A place to discuss and support all Steam Hardware, including Steam Deck, Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and SteamOS in general.
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The real question is "does it have a way to wake a steamdeck up from sleep"
Sure, as long is you're not a steam deck LCD owner. I just set mine to not sleep when docked
The LCD was able to be woken from sleep by any Bluetooth controller... Though today I saw there's an update that re-disabled this function. So I didn't apply it.
I actually love the touchpads, but it weird that I'm thinking about this more in the context of a media center PC than actually playing games? I definitely wouldn't use this for all games unless the form factor was really good.
Because, trying to operate Desktop Mode docked on Steam Deck with a controller is...painful, and this controller would be perfect for jumping into a web browser for streaming sites that don't have Kodi add-ons (Kanopy and Patreon are two that come to mind).
The original Steam Controller has become my go-to HTPC controller any time I have a PC hooked up to a TV. It's great.
This is a straight-up improvement. As long as the D-pad is good, it's going to become my #1 way to interact with any computer that I'm not sitting at a keyboard for.
Even if the D-pad isn't good, I might just hack it apart and put microswitches in it.
I have Stremio+Torrentio set up on my deck, and use a PS5 controller for its trackpad since Stremio is very difficult to navigate with a controller. Still, the PS5 controller sucks in a lot of ways and I'd love to upgrade to this!
I think this will also be great for couch gaming with games that weren't intended to be used with a controller, much like the SteamDeck. The track pads open up so much flexibility.
My only worry is the ergonomics of it. They had to cram so much that it looks like the sticks and buttons are too far up while the track pads are too far down. I haven't used a steam deck, but it does look more comfortable than this controller does. I hope it doesn't end up with that feeling of nothing being in a really comfortable place (except the triggers and bumpers).
I hope the d-pad is better than the steamdeck one, other than that I'm looking forward to it.
What’s wrong with the steam deck one? Too mushy for your tastes? I’ve never had issues with it.
Way too mushy, can't realistically play fighting games with it, and i much prefer d-pad to analog for those.
So far no controller has beaten the XBOne and later style of dpad with clicky switches underneath, for me.
They were talking about "magnetic joysticks" so they're hall effect?
No TMR.
And if you don't know tmr is basically a straight upgrade, makes it vastly more power efficient. Pretty much the same otherwise.
The joysticks are fine, nice that they're upgrading them. I want the d-pad to be clicky though. There are kits for the deck but I don't care enough about this to mess with the electronics, I'd rather it be done by pros.
I kept wondering what the shape reminded me of.
It's the Absolute Batman logo.
Ah, I see they went for the Duke's size and shape. Bold choice, we'll have to see how that works out.
I've never used the first one but always heard good things about it so looking forward to the second one
The video of two people playing the steam deck with two steam controllers in a fast food joint. Completely natural scenario! Just casually bringing your steam deck and two steam controllers to a fast food joint. Feels like they want to copy the nintendo switch advertisements, but it's not comparable at all since the switch is smaller and has the joycons which you can use as make-do controllers for e.g. public places.
As someone who brought my deck and 2 controllers with me on a trip with my friend, I'm the person in the advert. We were killing time waiting for another friend and we just chilled somewhere we could get food and drink and played indie games
That's a lot of space for something extremely situational. Did you go on the trip to play video games or to do some actual stuff in the real world?
I knew we'd be waiting around for our friend to arrive so I took an activity with. It was to do stuff in the real world. I would've been taking my deck with anyway so I had something to do on the train journey, 2 controllers wasn't an enormous amount more space.
C H O N K
Magnetic hall-effect thumbsticks
SEE NINTENDO?! IT'S NOT THAT HARD!!
TMR, not Hall Effect
Even better
As a big fan of the Steam Deck something I want to emphasize here is that even if you didn't want both the joysticks and the touchpads on the Steam Controller and wish they had picked one or the other, this kind of setup means the controller has essentially the same layout as the Steam Deck which is HUGE for ease of finding custom control schemes already uploaded by the community for complex games.
I prefer joysticks+gyro over touchpads for aiming and so for me the touchpads might seem superfluous, but in reality I heavily use them for virtual menus in all of my control schemes I make for complex games with lots of controls and inputs. The nice thing is that even though I am in the minority of people in that I prefer joysticks + gyro over touchpad for aiming, because the Steam Deck and Steam Controller both have two touchpads and two joysticks, somebody who is touchpad centric can use a control scheme I make pretty much right out of the box just by flip flopping the touchpad and joystick bindings so the virtual menus live on the joysticks instead.
I think this will be one of the subtle things people look back on and credit the Steam Deck and now new Steam Controller for having, it might seem silly and extraneous to have both touchpads and joysticks but it opens up a very wide range of capability and also makes it easier for touchpad and joystck focused players to share custom keybinding schemes with each other.
Who the fuck is complaining about having both? Thats such an insane take.
Hold up, Steam Frame? New Valve VR hardware??
AND it'll be a self-contained headset. Want to play Beat Saber? Just put it on and hit the power button, no computer needed.
Want to play Alyx with an actually decent framerate? Just power on your main gaming computer and plug in the wireless dongle, and you can leverage the beefier GPU.
I'm excited for it.
and plug in the wireless dongle
Depending on your setup, not even that. It sounds like if your wifi hardware is good enough, you'll be able to play over that as well, eliminating even the line of sight requirement between PC and headset
Whole gaming set, in fact. Steam Machnes are finally coming! Checking it, seems that it is going to be a powerhouse that will blow up console market.
That looks uncomfortable to hold ngl.
Steam Frame is a PC, and runs SteamOS powered by a Snapdragon® 8 Series Processor.
I'm more excited about this tbh. It'll be quite something if Valve ends up solving the firmware problems of Linux on snapdragon powered phones.
I thought the same thing about the steam deck and it turned out to be entirely fine.
This is basically cutting the screen out of a steamdeck so I'm pretty excited for a good controller.
It's funny, I was thinking the opposite. Lol. The design reminds me of the Dreamcast controller. I remember the first time I held a Dreamcast controller and how insanely comfortable it felt compared to NES, SNES, Genesis, N64 and Playstation. Granted, modern PlayStation and XBox controllers are also much more comfortable than all of those too, so the Dreamcast one might be uncomfortable by modern standards, but I don't know since I haven't held one in 25 years.
I'm hoping this new Steam Controller is as comfortable as I remember the Dreamcast controller being.
I'm so thrilled for a new steam controller. I was a huge fan of the original, I just wish it were built Better. I hope the new one is built well, I'm planning to purchase one as I think it will be a good controller for my flight sims