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That, and the Supreme Court.

Peter Thiel calling the pope the “anti-Christ” made me think the pope is pretty fucking cool. It also makes Peter Thiel look like a clown.

Well..... The problem is that the Catholic Church does not act as a unified body, especially in America.

Trad Catholics in America have been hating the pope since basically Vatican II. That doesn't mean that "they are at war with the church", just that organizations like Opus Dei are actively trying to pull the church further to the right.

So while some of the church maybe doing good, the other part of the church is ending abortion rights and partaking in other crazy shit on the supreme court.

The US has never really been friendly to Catholics as a whole. Jfk was the first Catholic president, and a fear at the time was that the pope would have undue influence. The KKK also went after non-protestants.

Yep. It's a shame people don't understand that. Actually conservative viewpoints have been long gone from politics. I believe it was Michael Malice who said it--"conservatism is just progressivism driving the speed limit".

Conservatism today is a complete misnomer and just shilling for the traditional religious folk. MAGA does nothing but play on those heart strings and they're still able to lull in so many religious citizens.

It is tragic what is happening to their parishioners right now, but the bishops can only blame themselves. They directly advocated for politicians who are now actively targeting their people.

Tell me you don’t understand Catholicism without telling me you don’t understand Catholicism. If there is any Christian church that doesn’t advocate for specific politicians it’s the Catholic Church.

The special message from the U.S. bishops has no call to action outside of calling for care, well treatment and prayer for immigrants in the U.S.

Special Message

I can tell you exactly how this special message will impact church going American Catholics. The Sunday mass following the message will include in its Prayer Intentions something like “we join the call of the U.S. bishops to recognize the humanity in all people, regardless of immigration status. We pray to the Lord”, and the parishioners will reply whether listening or not “Lord hear our prayer.”

It is tragic what is happening to their parishioners right now, but the bishops can only blame themselves.

No shortage of liberal bishops who promoted like-minded candidates. Everyone from John Kerry to Joe Biden got a healthy windfall of support from the Catholic community at-large. As a consequence, Dems have historically been very squirrely on their support/opposition to abortion, with "Pro-Life" Democrats being a significant chunk of the elected bureaucracy.

The biggest opposition to ACA in the first two years was from these very Democrats - folks who twisted and squirmed at the prospect of extending the wrong kind of health care to the wrong kind of people. This wasn't a "Catholics brought this on themselves by electing Republicans", it was "Democrats allowed misogyny to fester within its party under the cover of the Catholic vote".

In the same way, Democrats have historically demonstrated a chronic unkindness to migrants and their families whenever they saw an electoral advantage in kicking people while they were down. This dates back to the Clinton Era of the 90s, when Bill ran to the right of Bush Sr on immigration and won California on the anti-Mexico vote. Catholics who were staunchly pro-immigration ran around backing migrant-friendly(ish) Republicans like Bush, Rubio, Romney, and Kasich only to get their backsides blown out by Trumpism.

You mean heliocentrism, right? Or am I bungling the context here

I'm a little tired of pretending people just don't understand what is going on. Conservatives are fucking liars. They lie about their beliefs. They lie about their understanding. They feign ignorance at the horror and buy into nakedly fake conspiracy theories and artificially generated images/videos. To quote Upton Sinclair

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

The common denominator across the conservative movement is industry of employment. O&G, FinTech, Sales, Real Estate, Automotive, MLMs... If you find a staunch conservative pundit, you're going to quickly discover one or more of the above puffing up their financial sails.

Religious Right figures know full well that their religious leadership differs from their political leadership and they don't care. Their dioceses are funded with the money from extractive and exploitative industries. Their churches are built with blood money. And they're going to defend that money far more zealously than they defend some random asshole from Chicago promoted to the highest office via a conclave of foreign fucks most of them couldn't pick out of a crowd in full uniform.

The current level of cognitive dissonance has been a long time in the making.

It isn't dissonance. Its a pronounced divorce between the local churches and Rome that's been widening since Vatican II. As Catholicism spreads across the developing world and shrivels in the imperial core, the so-called Catholics find their economic future and their religious faith at odds. And they aren't flinching in response. They're going all in on the money.

i’ll never understand how someone can claim to be Christian and not be considered radical and “left wing” by the current standards of the Overton Window. To behave like Christ is, compared to what happens today, to be a fucking radical.

They don't wanna share the kids

I am pretty sure being head the Vatican would be considered foreign nobility for purposes of the constitution.

Holy shit, could you imagine