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Saw this video on YouTube a few days ago, it’s really interesting. Seemed like XP, 7 and (somehow 8.1) ran pretty good. Here’s the video for anyone wanting to see it :P https://youtu.be/7VZJO-hOT4c
Tho while 8 may be more performant, it’s also less usable imo. Would like to see how this stacks up with different OSs!
Not sure why it would be unexpected? 8.1 was not a good OS from a UI perspective, but it was the last version before Microsoft went all in on making Windows a service and not a product you paid to use.
They still had the incentive to make the OS better and faster. I remember videos from Microsoft at the time showing how fast Windows 8 could get to the desktop compared to 7. They don't really even try to work on stuff like that anymore.
Windows 8 also had to run on atom CPUs with dire CPU performance and even more dire memory configs. So even once it was booted it needed to be relatively slim and quick. I actually preferred it at the time because it was faster than 7.
I miss the Intel Atom, not because I wanted to use it, but because of the positive impact it had on big tech and software bloat. I wish we could bring it back, but it seems nowadays, even Chromebooks have 16 GB of RAM and an i5.
but it seems nowadays, even Chromebooks have 16 GB of RAM and an i5.
That is extremely far from the truth. Yes, there are a handful of Chromebook with such specifications, but the vast majority has an underpowered ARM chip and 4gb of ram
The atom is only gone in name. It’s now just “intel processor”. The N100 CPUs are in a ton of neat machines. And the E cores of Intel CPUs are just Atom cores.
I actually really liked 8.1, preferred it to 7 once I got used to the Start Screen. Surprisingly well designed, actually found myself preferring the menu over 7's
10 had the best start menu in my opinion, but the quality was just an ever advancing downward spiral.
Now, I can't even stand it, deal with it at work as much as I have to, but at home, the only Windows machine left is only still on it because simulator peripherals are a pain to get working right on Linux sometimes, so my dedicated simulator machine still uses that, but it's used for nothing else
Those 2 in 1 baytrail laptops were so underpowered, but damn, they're so cool
Windows 8 was where Microsoft went all-in on optimizing Windows to run on low-power tablets to compete with the iPad. It's mostly remembered for the terrible tablet-first full-screen "start menu", but also continued the work to trim away all the Vista bloat that had started with Windows 7 (where the motivation was to make it work on netbooks so they could finally stop shipping XP)
At first: Stop posting Tomshardware! They just bulk repost ad-enriched low quality clickbait content without validating anything (cough 9700X3D). Just post the original video.
As the video creator said in it's disclaimer, the test is probably not accurate:
It's the same exact laptop, the tests ran sequentially but were edited so that the video shows them in parallel. Since it's the same hardware in each test and only the OS changes, it's a perfectly fine setup for comparison.
Okay but can't we just post an article?
Why does everything need to be a video? I am more sick of Everything needs to be a video then I am of This meeting could've be an email.
I think their main issue lies with Tomshardware, not the medium of an article
The computers get faster and the software gets slower. Tale as old as time.
* as old as unix time
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Typing this:
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Seems like every hardware upgrade just makes software worse because they can just brute force it.
Optimization?
What's that?
I have fond memories of Windows XP working well.
Do not have fond memories of the multi-dvd game installations, but I still have my library of physical games. :)
Nothing sucked more than buying a used game only for it to ask for disc 5 to be inserted to continue, when it only came with 4!
Oh, true, but back then game companies would sell you those single disks you needed. My copy of Baldur's Gate 2 was missing one that I was able to replace for a few bucks.
In hindsight, I kinda miss the awesome customer service that used to exist.
Idk a tiny almost imperceptible scratch causing you to retry installing 3 or 4 times might a contender. At least the missing disk is a clear error.
Even the older Windows XP managed 50 tabs, and that's because it kept crashing past that number because of its paging file failing to keep up, not because it had hit the 5GB memory ceiling.
Windows XP 32bit can't hit 5gb memory ceiling, the 32bit memory addresses don't allow that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
Not at release. It came later though for certain chipsets.
PSA: In the video (not the retarded posted article that has 0 proofreading) it's stated that he used Windows XP 64 bit
Interesting. I've always said that I liked 8.1 the most out of all Windows versions. With classic startup, it was basically a more stable, faster Win7 that had newer DirectX and fastboot. Too bad it died with 8.0 and so 8.1 never got any market share, but damn was it awesome.
I also liked 8.1, but I kept 7 until 8.1 was released so I never experienced 8.0. Personally I was disappointed with Windows 7 when I moved from Vista because I had heard that it would be faster but for me 7 was slower before I upgraded to a SSD. I used a debloated version of Vista and compared it with the standard 7 so not really a far comparison.
Fascinating that the browser using so much RAM is the OS's fault, not the browser's. Though, it using more RAM could be considered a good thing if it sped up page loading, but apparently that's not the case with Win11.
i still like 7 better
7 was peak
7 was about the last time that it felt like Microsoft was trying to make a good product that was useful for its customers. They've always been anticompetitive sniveling greedy little shits that would buy out or otherwise kill competition, but used to be they'd try to sell new versions of Windows or Office on features they could reasonably expect customers to want. "It does spell check in real time now! We've included USB plug-and-play! Your PC with a modem is also a fax machine now! We made a 3D graphics library for gaming enthusiasts! We ship or OS with a media player that can play DVDs and MP3s out of the box! Here's a free video editor!"
I...don't remember that happening after Windows 7. Windows 8 was an attempt to cash in on the mobile craze, they're gonna make Windows a tablet product now! Except a lot of computers didn't have tablet controls, and a lot of desktop PC software doesn't work with tablet controls. They made a confusing annoying buggy hell mess. Win 10...I remember people hating it when it came out, they REALLY preferred 7, I was on Linux by that time and didn't care that much, and Win 10 was almost a rolling release; it changed a lot over its lifetime. They'd go all in on something, pack Win 10 full of features, and then the fad would fade and they'd pull it back out. 3D, AR, a couple other things. And now we've got the openly user hostile Windows 11. "It Harms Your Family!^(R)^"
Windows Vista walked away as the fastest.
My girl
I ran Vista for years, but recall people hating it.
At the end of its life, Vista was quite competent.
But during the early years, the added animations and transparent features really tanked the performance on the hardware of that time. Combined with the issues any new OS has, it received much hate. Only after much optimization became it somewhat stable.
I remember her as a sip of fresh air. No other OS was this appealing
Making me want to revisit Vista.
This is not a proper test. Windows does optimizations on the first few boots which makes the startup take longer. As it's not mentioned in the video, we have to assume this was not accounted for, which completely invalidates the results.
Well considering almost every time I reboot it seems to do a windows update, those optimizations are probably running every time anyway. It's almost fair.
