I've had a Nothing Phone 3 for just over a month running google-free (mostly FOSS apps or loading from Aurora, F-Droid etc) and I love it. Easily the best camera on a phone I have ever owned.
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Isn't Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?
Spez is also part of Nothing
Fuck it then.
Just an investor. Not a designer. Rich people throw money at things to get more money.
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Also, there's a EU flag but the UK has been so stupid to leave the EU.
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Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim "UK company" for marketing.
Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.
Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM'ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.
Their marketing is in the UK, that's about it.
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I had an RMA claim with nothing a few days ago and wow, did I hate it. They threw every stone they could find at me, and then managed to "forget" a part of the money they owed me.
Which is a shame, because I really dig their design. But fuck them.
The days of people preferring the US to China are over. I would buy Chinese tech over US tech any day.
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Here in Sweden they started with fishing for funding and making press about being a Swedish company. It worked and they got hype. Then they moved to some UK tax haven and now they are apparently based on London.
I'm not very supportive of Nothing.
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I already have two pairs of bricked bluetooth headphones, I won't have a third.
The audiophiles will crucify me, but I will accept two USBC ports as consolation.
I just hate how bulky most c connectors are and feel like that they break more easily because of that.
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to add another (german) brand: https://www.shift.eco/
I had the shiftphone6 back in 2018 and I believe it had an alternative OS installed, in any case I can't remember the google play store pre-installed (correct me if I'm wrong).
Like Fairphone they have a cooperation with the open source android fork project eOs/murena
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They are all so fucking huge! Can't anyone make a good <= 6" Phone anymore?
Seriously, I want a phone that I can hold in one hand, and my thumb can reach the entirety of the screen. My current phone is so bulky and heavy, I can barely reach half the screen with my thumb.
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Yea 6 inch is like the limit of a good sized phone for me. Phablets have gone too far.
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Wait what? Jolla? Not only does that company exist, they are also making phones again? Really wasn't expecting to see that name ever again.
I'll pick Jolla. I hope their new phone will be good.
Fairphone has an atrocious update policy. They do not care for security.
I highly recommend the e/os for the fairphones. Security wise it's really great! And with the installer not that hard to install (imo)
Itโs more private than the Android version it ships with but not more secure
Usually this isnโt an issue though, depends on your threat model of course
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I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.
I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn't been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.
I can't use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that's because the apps require google play services for "security". Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.
I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.
I'm still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.
I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it's so much more convenient.
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I just wish there was a way to get the Fairphone in the U.S. I love the repairability aspect and I already use LineageOS as my main OS to keep my devices as long as possible. I also have access to a 3D printer to build accessories and parts for them too.
A good idea if you can't buy Euro is to buy used and flash LineageOS if your device is supported. I'm using a Pixel 4a 5G as my driver with LineageOS since I know how to repair it and I have easy access to parts for them. (Thanks to buying bulk parts from local offices near me that used them.)
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