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[โ€“] Jiral@lemmy.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Volla Quintus appears to be almost identical, to the Daria Bond that is sold in the UAE. Specs look identical from what I could see and the only difference I can make out are very minor design changes in the back side shell. Volla's marketing and statements are pretty misleading about that. I am not saying they should not work with Chinese OEMs but they create the impression there was meaningful customisation going on from their side, maybe there was but it looks very much off the shelf from an OEM model.

At the same time Volla also sells Plinius. It is actually a stronger phone, for a lower price than the Quintus but looks very much like the strongest Gigaset phone (which is lower mid-range), so should be actually manufactured in Germany (as much as any phone in Europe could possibly be I think). It is bewildering that they don't put the Gigaset model square and centre.

[โ€“] RmDebArc_5@feddit.org 193 points 2 months ago (21 children)

Isn't Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?

[โ€“] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 109 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Spez is also part of Nothing

[โ€“] B0rax@feddit.org 80 points 2 months ago

Fuck it then.

[โ€“] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

Just an investor. Not a designer. Rich people throw money at things to get more money.

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[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Also, there's a EU flag but the UK has been so stupid to leave the EU.

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[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim "UK company" for marketing.

Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.

Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM'ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.

Their marketing is in the UK, that's about it.

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[โ€“] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had an RMA claim with nothing a few days ago and wow, did I hate it. They threw every stone they could find at me, and then managed to "forget" a part of the money they owed me.

Which is a shame, because I really dig their design. But fuck them.

[โ€“] gruvn@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The days of people preferring the US to China are over. I would buy Chinese tech over US tech any day.

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[โ€“] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Here in Sweden they started with fishing for funding and making press about being a Swedish company. It worked and they got hype. Then they moved to some UK tax haven and now they are apparently based on London.

I'm not very supportive of Nothing.

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[โ€“] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

I'm not too familiar how the company is managed, but I have Nothing 3. It's fine. Nothing special (unless you count the flashing lights on the back), gets the job done but so does pretty much every other android-based slab. At least it isn't full of vendor forced crap like samsung.

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[โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 117 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[โ€“] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 55 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The audiophiles will crucify me, but I will accept two USBC ports as consolation.

[โ€“] vogi@piefed.social 14 points 2 months ago

I just hate how bulky most c connectors are and feel like that they break more easily because of that.

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[โ€“] madaibobo@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (6 children)

to add another (german) brand: https://www.shift.eco/

I had the shiftphone6 back in 2018 and I believe it had an alternative OS installed, in any case I can't remember the google play store pre-installed (correct me if I'm wrong).

[โ€“] Actionschnils@feddit.org 29 points 2 months ago

Like Fairphone they have a cooperation with the open source android fork project eOs/murena

https://e.foundation/e-os/

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[โ€“] es_eskaliert@feddit.org 36 points 2 months ago (11 children)

They are all so fucking huge! Can't anyone make a good <= 6" Phone anymore?

[โ€“] wattanao@fedia.io 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Seriously, I want a phone that I can hold in one hand, and my thumb can reach the entirety of the screen. My current phone is so bulky and heavy, I can barely reach half the screen with my thumb.

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[โ€“] warm@kbin.earth 13 points 2 months ago

Yea 6 inch is like the limit of a good sized phone for me. Phablets have gone too far.

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[โ€“] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago

Wait what? Jolla? Not only does that company exist, they are also making phones again? Really wasn't expecting to see that name ever again.

[โ€“] petrescatraian@libranet.de 18 points 2 months ago

I'll pick Jolla. I hope their new phone will be good.

[โ€“] kcweller@feddit.nl 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fairphone has an atrocious update policy. They do not care for security.

[โ€“] madaibobo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I highly recommend the e/os for the fairphones. Security wise it's really great! And with the installer not that hard to install (imo)

[โ€“] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Itโ€™s more private than the Android version it ships with but not more secure

Usually this isnโ€™t an issue though, depends on your threat model of course

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[โ€“] 18107@aussie.zone 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.

I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn't been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.

I can't use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that's because the apps require google play services for "security". Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.

I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.

I'm still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.

I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it's so much more convenient.

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[โ€“] KhantoBlackhand@lemmy.today 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I just wish there was a way to get the Fairphone in the U.S. I love the repairability aspect and I already use LineageOS as my main OS to keep my devices as long as possible. I also have access to a 3D printer to build accessories and parts for them too.

A good idea if you can't buy Euro is to buy used and flash LineageOS if your device is supported. I'm using a Pixel 4a 5G as my driver with LineageOS since I know how to repair it and I have easy access to parts for them. (Thanks to buying bulk parts from local offices near me that used them.)

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[โ€“] androidul@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

the only problem I have is that I cannot install my banking app ๐Ÿซค

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[โ€“] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (7 children)

If one of these phones runs GrapheneOS, I would be interested.

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[โ€“] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

Isn't HMD like Finnish

[โ€“] judgyweevil@feddit.it 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just want a dumbphone with a decent camera

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