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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 132 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Jesus, dude... Their fucking business model is theft and they still can't make a profit...

Lemme go buy some shares right now! πŸ™„

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am legitimately surprised that these companies aren't throwing lobbyists out there to eliminate IP laws to account for this. It's almost like many of the companies which rely on IP laws to make profit are also those which have to break them to save money by replacing jobs with AI....

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 32 points 3 days ago

They don't need to. In sarcastic words of Cory Doctorow, it is OK because it's through the app.

Illegal unregulated hotels? It's OK because it's through the app. Illegal taxis? It's OK because it's through the app. Plagiarism and IP violations? It's OK because it's through the app.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago

They didn't need to. Copyright enforcement was unequal enough that it only applies to regular people. Facebook downloading illegal torrents doesn't count for some reason.

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 144 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If they’re already in the Degradation stage of the Enshitification process they’re fucked.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yep.

It would be like if Uber started ripping people off before they even broke the cab union contracts with cities.

They don't have a product people even want yet.

[–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Anecdotal, but pretty much all my friends use ChatGPT. So there is definitely some demand, but I doubt any of them would pay for it. They also all realize more and more that it's a bullshit machine that cannot be trusted.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a number of friends and family members who pay for ChatGPT, and I've been shocked to watch their ability to form an original thought shrivel up.

Good point. While I knew that this iteration of "AI" would not revolutionise jobs or creative work, it is so scary how society just accepted that everyone would lose their job and everything else. We could just... Not do that. Or at least do it in a better system.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

A TON of people love ChatGPT. I'm with you, but it's foolish to not acknowledge the reality that it's popular.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Billions of flies love shit πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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Just cause tonnes of folks love ChatGPT doesn't mean that it's viable though, plenty of people love products that were produced by now debunked corporations or developers, just look at Troika games Arcanum and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines are loved by their communities but the studio has been bunk for about 20 years now. If they can't break even as a minimum they will eventually collapse and be sold for parts.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 15 points 3 days ago

Enshitification speedrun

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was always the first resort. It just needed to reach a certain amount of users to convince advertisers to advertise. Welcome to the first milestone of doom. It only gets worse from here.

Bitch please. This is like the 847th milestone of doom.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who... even is Sam Altman?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XyI38Vp1PGw

Oh, he's basically a less lucky and somehow less competent version of Mark Zuckerberg.

He doesn't know anything like, theoretical or technical about AI, he has no expertise, he's just a guy with a failed startup or two under his belt, who then become the hypeman for investing schemes/incubators.

He, like many in the tech industry, just... acts like he knows what he is talking about, and... for quite a long time, people believed it.

He's basically a complete fraud, just, as a person, beyond all the literal financial fraud he's orchestrated.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hyping and pumping companies and stocks is the attribute our economy prizes above all else.

Look at musk, what a genius the investors gush. It does not matter if it is dishonest, if the intrinsic value is way below what is thought. They only care what people think, not what is.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So... We're nearing the end, then?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

Unless ads give enough revenue.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm gonna have a good laugh when emails start arriving in my inbox from colleagues and externals with weird ads in the body of the text. Because considering the amount of people that just paste the bot replies in their emails, this will happen, frequently.

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This was inevitable. Anyone who has a basic understanding of how GenAI works knows the only thing they're actually marketable for use for is advertising. Nobody wants to read (or write) an LLM generated book or make a movie with a script written by ChatGPT.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So now it's going to recommend specific brands of rope when it tells me to kill myself?

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Now I call that convenience

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 3 days ago

Because LLMs don't make money. They are prohibitively expensive to run at scale due to the compute and energy requirements, and model fine-tuning adds yet more cost. RAG systems are even more prohibitive and complex.

The only reason they have been developed to such extent is investor money rolling around in a giant loop. Once this stops, every company hosting LLMs has to raise prices to try and make the unprofitable profitable -- but the compute and energy costs don't change in a significant way (unless it's up).

Ads here are likely an attempt to recoup what is dwindling investor capital. I seriously doubt any of these giant models can be brought to actual profitability.

Eventually, the bottom just falls out.

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 55 points 3 days ago

ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam (please don't let the AI bubble burst) Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

[–] HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Cut my life into pieces..."

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 13 points 3 days ago

"What a great plan! I'd be happy to help you come up with a plan to cut your life into pieces! 😊 "

[–] a_person@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Sam Altman answering the question "Can shit be enshittified?"

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've noticed this on Gemini too. I didn't want to search through the annoying internet recipe experience these days so I tried Gemini. "Find me an ice cream recipe"

"Sure! Recipe is blah blah..... Also, OXO makes a great container for your ice cream! And there is a great Ice cream scoop also made by OXO!"

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Gemini is made by Google/Alphabet, one of the largest advertising company so it's not surprising.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago

Well he wasn't lying.

Ads always come at the end, at the last part of enshittification, so yeah, last resort indeed

Eh, fuck chatgpt, fuck Sam Altman in specific, with an umbrella

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

Finally the AI innovation we were promised.

Enshitification speed run.

/s

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Who the fuck still uses ChatGPT when there are so many open source alternatives that are much cheaper and sometimes even better overall?

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Well, yeah. They're burning money faster than any ten startups I've ever seen. Of course they're at a last resort.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago

"last resort" here meaning the final resort stay on an extended tour of increasingly more luxurious resorts

[–] hector@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

I read that as chatgpt is getting aids. Sounds about right, not a bad analogy.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Butlerian Jihad When?

Also, punchable face.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Seems like the end is near if they need to put ads to try to stop the profuse money bleed (that will still continue regardless).

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

you mean his first and only resort. consider you are one of peter thiels protege as well.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Altman is in the thiel, yarvin set as well?

Small world these ivy league pricks live in.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

This was planned from the very beginning.

This was the entire pitch.

"Hey, we have this tool trusted by millions of smooth-brained troglodytes that can be used to control the narrative."

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Uh oh, I know a company who uses chat gpt for translations, and they don't have staff to proofread non English languages...

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