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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 2 points 26 minutes ago

Cause we force them to

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

My thoughts were: At the mercy of their owner for one. Then a simpler obligate carnivore's taste buds and brain reward system vs an easily bored omnivore with thumbs and unga fire.

Cats can be pretty different with food preference compared to each other. My two aren't super picky. One is allergic to something in kibble so they both only eat wet food. I noticed above all that they vastly prefer paté pucks to a mince in gravy, no matter what flavour any of it is. Seems to leave them feeling fuller too afterwards. Priority: scent, mouth feel, and then taste is considered last is my observation.

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That said, a lot of humans in NA who don't cook at home are eating the same crap repackaged in multiple ways from the same Sysco supply monopoly served at almost every restaurant :p

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Everyone is saying "we don't," but do need a diet that's more varied than cats? (for example) If so, why?

[–] TeamAssimilation 1 points 51 minutes ago

Somewhere I read that bread has most of the essential nutrients for humans, except for vitamin C. That would mean that prisoners who were sentenced to bread and water could last many years if they had fruit occasionally.

I guess the kind of bread, and the reduced caloric needs of prisoners, play a huge role here.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Survival =/= nutrition

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a living proof that you can eat the same thing every day for decades and be just fine.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

If the food you're eating doesn't contain all the nutrients you need you're unhealthy as fuck and it will come back to haunt you.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 hours ago

To add on to other peoples answers regarding the complete nutritional makeup of pet food; many animals can make a variety of the amino acids they need to survive with just a few inputs (like deer and cows eating only (mostly) plants), but some, especially predatory animals, cannot. They get those nutrients from the prey they eat, which in turn got them from the plants.

It essentially comes down to which enzymes any given organism can create, which ones their DNA codes for. Humans can't make a bunch of these amino acids themselves. Many (maybe all of them, not that far into my class yet) of the reactions taking in place in any living organism are entirely reliant on enzymes to catalyze them; that is, without them these reactions would take millions of years to complete.

BTW there are appr. 37x10^17^ (3,700,000,000,000,000,000) reactions happening in your body every second. All of them (or at least a great majority of them) require enzymes to complete.

[–] phanto@lemmy.ca 25 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Damn you. Another new white t-shirt with coffee and snot stains. Take my upvote.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 25 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

need a variety of food to survive?

It's not true.

Boredom feels terrible while it lasts, but it doesn't kill you. In the end, humans usually start to get creative after boredom.

Oh, and yes, some food industry has found out things and told you things... yes, they were creative :-)

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

What about the British? They were starving, and they didn't get creative. They just kept eating brown goo for centuries.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I like British food. I live in Germany now and if I see another Maultasche I'm going to scream.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

We like carbs which are often brown and make for a good hangover food. Not sure about goo though?

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I had heard that British cuisine was much more robust before WW1.

Also, if brown goo is meat-flavored, I'd be down for it.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Got a recipe book for the British working class that was written in the 1800s, even that has curry in it.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Are you saying that the brown stuff is curry? I am a fan of curry, but the stuff I make at home is green or yellow.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago

It is brown goo flavored, and you will eat it until you are completely brainwashed into liking it.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

I suppose that's why we added mild pain to our diet. Mix things up a bit.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 37 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Asked my GF who's an aspiring crazy cat lady:

It's because (proper) cat food is engineered to contain all the nutrients they need. While it looks like a bland mush of only one thing, it's more like the cat equivalent of having several full nutricious meals run through a blender. The required variety is built in.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 31 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too, it’s just not many people want that.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that basically what Huel is?

[–] AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

yeah. I tried the "nothing but huel for a week" thing and got INTENSE cravings for other foods pretty quickly. I guess the other comments about getting bored are true. You can survive on it - even healthily - but it's not fun. Maybe you get used to it after a few weeks.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Speak for yourself, bachelor chow would solve many problems for me

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Awww shieeet I JUST got done finding a pee'n'gee. What am I gonna do with this thing now?

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too,

You could, and it would be very simple to do so.

1: Take all the food you'd eat for, say, a week. Absolutely everything.

2: Blend it. Maybe add some extra vitamins to make up for the ones that will be lost due to processing.

3: Dehydrate it. (To make it more compact and less likely to spoil.)

4: Compress it into pellets.

Done. You have now created 'human food'.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago

Blending it is pre-digesting it which means it doesn’t travel our bodies quite the same way.

We have long digestive systems for a reason.

I’m not saying it isn’t possible but you’d probably shit funny for a long time

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

Pemmican! We should be eating pemmican.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That’s what I find so absurd about the “humans need variety in their diet” mantra. If we need some vast unknown combination of things, how is it that letting people loose on supermarkets and choosing their own recipes somehow achieves that, compared to at least some first pass attempt based on macro nutrients?

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Because many of our modern staples are fortified with essential vitamins and nutrients.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We also get cravings for specific foods when our bodies are lacking in a nutrient that food contains. I don't think we have them for every nutrient our bodies need, hence why people can get nutrient deficiencies by accident even when the nutrient they need is available, but there's some instinctual failsafes for certain ones that must have been scarce or intermittent enough for cravings to confer an evolutionary advantage.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah that’s a good point.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 12 hours ago

Ok, what we'll do is, we'll take some sort of kibble, A, fortify it, call it "Vegetable Delight". Then another sort of kibble, B, fortify that, call it "Ox Fondue". Then another, just like the previous ones, call it, say, "Mystery Surprise". All fortified. Then you just alternate them. Mondays, A. Tuesdays, B. Then Wednesdays you think C but nope! A again. Then B, then A, THEN B, and then, finally C, so you have something special to look forward to on Sundays.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

There are powdered meals that are supposed to offer balanced nutrition. I've heard of people living off Soylent, Huel, etc. I don't think it's good long-term, and the lack of chewing could cause problems. But it is feasible in principle.

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 15 points 13 hours ago

You as a human could also live with the same food every day if it covered every dietary need. Especially if you depended on someone else to acquire it and had no choice.

There is an evolutionary push for a rich variety of nutrients obtained from a variety of sources, but the mechanism driving that daily "need" for variety is force of habit and desire for novelty. On top of that, some people are happy to eat nothing but junk and have very narrow tastes. How come?

Also, I can assure you, a lot of cats will periodically stop eating a certain brand or flavor and go through cycles. Does it mean the food isn't really covering their needs or are they just bored of the same flavor every day? Hard to know, but I would argue your assumption about humans being too different from their pets when it comes to variety in their menu.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

How can I survive off of that, if they're out of stock for half the year? ;-;

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Buy double in the half year when it is available

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Usually can't afford that much upfront, wish I could tho.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I did make the comment in jest, though I appreciate the candor lol

That aside, I don’t have an idea if it’s even a viable approach considering the potential expiration dates and storage condition requirements, assuming one would even be willing to pay the exorbitant price to buy it as their main source of nourishment

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago

Im just pointing out we can make a human food just like we make cat food and dog food and indeed have. Soylent sorta started it but there are a variety of other things now doing the same thing with twists (all vegan or organic, etc) and even before then we had meal replacement shakes and bars and actually there is this emergency food called plumpy nut that is actually made to nurse someone back from severe starvation. All sorts of bunker survival ration bar things to which are fairly common as boat things.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Cats and similar animals are adapted to specific environmental niches, but humans are generalists. One of the drawbacks of being generalists is that we’re not specialized enough to fully subsist on any single food source.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

We can definitely subsist on a single food source if it's been engineered to be nutritionally complete like pet food has.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

They keep making solya t/bachelor chow...

Nobody buys it.

But you can 100% meal prep something and just eat it everyday as long as it's got everything balanced. That's what pet food is. It's not like there's an animal whose flesh is cat food, it's processed and fortifiex

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We don't need a variety of food to survive. But, generally, we have choice, so we choose to vary our diet because it's more interesting.

Pets do not have a choice. They eat what they're given. Or they choose not to and die (a lil cat I was sitting chose that route).

[–] seathru@quokk.au 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

They eat what they’re given. Or they choose not to and die (a lil cat I was sitting chose that route).

What the fuck? Cats don't just chose not to eat and die. That cat died from neglect.

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[–] Pirat@lemmy.org 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wildcats (tigers, lions, bobcats, etc) will take down a prey animal. We think they just eat the muscle. In reality, they often go for the stomach of the herbivore they just brought down to get the vegetable matter there. Then they eat other internal organs (liver, spleen, kidneys) so they aren't just eating muscle.

For our pets, well, we all know they don't eat the same thing every day. Firstly, the the thing they do eat every day, pet food, has various nutrients included so it's a balanced meal for them. Secondly, we give them treats which may or may not be beneficial.

As for we humans wanting variety, it's exactly that. We want but don't need as much variety as we get. We enjoy the different flavors even if the items containing those flavors aren't exactly good for us (twinkies, 8 year scotch, etc). Our pets and wild carnivores don't get the opportunity to try these other flavors (well, our pets get some opportunity but not to the extent we have granted ourselves).

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 14 hours ago

I have a low burnout rate with food, and there are probably meals that I could just keep eating repeatedly. Note that these are multi-ingredient foods so could theoretically offer balanced nutrition and be flavored to a preferred taste.

I don't do so for several reasons: cost, availability, convenience, sharing meals with others who have different food preferences, and simply because I still prefer variety.

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