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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay, fine. But you have to do all of it. That means nobody can change more than 10% interest and there has to be a jubilee every 50 years where all debts are forgiven and all land is returned to its original owner.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Who is the “original owner” of land?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

The person who took out the mortgage, though that wasn't the term used back then.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

In ancient times? The king.

Maybe not the original owner, but good luck arguing that when the soldiers come to evict you.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 11 points 1 week ago
[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If we are applying it to the US, I would say Native Americans. Originally, this law was because land could only be leased for at most 50 years. It could not be sold. That feels appropriate since most , if not all, Native American groups didn't consider the land to be something that could be owned.

[–] TraipsersWill@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

A mat of single-celled organisms, that floated on a shallow sea over what is now Nebraska, 3.5 billion years ago.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

Happy 250th anniversary, America! Bye bye debt!

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The Bible forbids being rich so I'm cool with that lol wealth tax baby thanks Jesus!!!

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 58 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Christian nationalist Doug Wilson wants tax rates to be determined by the Bible: "I would like Divine Law to have something to say about the marginal tax rates ... because when the state claims a tithe, they're claiming equality with God."

Somebody needs to read their Bible.

Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words. When they had come, they said to Him, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and care about no one; for You do not regard the person of men, but teach the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? Shall we pay, or shall we not pay?” But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, “Why do you test Me? Bring Me a denarius that I may see it.” So they brought it. And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And Jesus answered and said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Mark 12:13-16 (NKJV). There are other passages about submitting to earthly governments as well where they do not contravene the law of God.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

And the meaning in that passage is revealed by the questions: what does Caesar own? And what does God own?

Starting from the end: God owns everything. Now what? It was a veiled subversive message.

Most of the other passages about submitting to earthly authorities are in St Paul. It's one of the many ways he was more conserative than JC.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Guarantee this dumbass talking about Divine Law will just as quickly foam at the mouth about Sharia Law.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Well, yeah, but those guys wear towels on their heads instead of red baseball hats, so it's entirely different.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

"I mean real Divine Law, not that terrorist crap!"

...all while he proceeds to ignore the 1000's of religions that were a thing before his specific denomination of Christianity came along and got it "right".

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wilson might have had this verse in mind:

Matthew 19

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

...probably.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Always a hilarious verse for right wingers to point to.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

They have come up with some convoluted bullshit interpretations to nullify it. "Duh, the Eye of the Needle was the name of a gate in Jerusalem." A story that traces back to some late-medieval donor-friendly commentator, who pulled it out of his monastic ass.

[–] mofongo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

I also like Acts 2: 44-47

44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Bible is a bit like the internet - it's large and obscure enough that if you dig long enough, you can find just about anything you want to "back up" any point of view you want.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago

And if not, just get a “scholar” to make a version that has it.

[–] Waterpumpee@lemmus.org 5 points 1 week ago

did the fella pocket the coin?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Romans 13:1 is more about Christians being powerless when ICE is hunting down immigrants (who are often Christian talk about the actual persecution of Christians in America)

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Render unto George Washington all your quarters, and to Benjamin Franklin all 100 dollar bills. Screw Lincoln, we don't make his money no mo'

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Lincoln's on the $5 bill, mate

[–] tal@lemmy.today 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Christian nationalist Doug Wilson wants tax rates to be determined by the Bible: "I would like Divine Law to have something to say about the marginal tax rates ... because when the state claims a tithe, they're claiming equality with God."

I mean..the Bible has a pretty prominent verse that the state should be able to set taxes.

Matthew 22:17–21:

Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not?”   But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me?  Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

“Caesar’s,” they replied.

Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s

This is one of the corner stones of why Christian countries aren't ~~patriarchies~~ Theocracies like with Islam, and an extremely well known passage.
The 10% recommendation is for the church, or God as they would probably like to imagine.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

“You hypocrites..."

Yeah, that about sums up this douche canoe.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you confusing patriarchy with theocracy? The US is a patriarchy that the Christian Nationalists are trying to turn into a theocracy.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes.
Brainfart, English is not my first language.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 week ago

That's alright. English isn't the first language of plenty of people who only speak English.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is one of the corner stones of why Christian countries aren't patriarchies

So why are christians trying to repeal women's right to vote in the United States?

Christianity, like all the abrahamic faiths, is a misogynistic death cult. Are there some good verses in the bible? Sure. But please stop ignoring the bad ones.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

because when the state claims a tithe, they’re claiming equality with God.

So, basically, no income taxes of any kind then, if this guy has his way.

Or, more strictly speaking, you could have whatever income taxes you want, as long as they aren't exactly 10%.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

separation of church and state, amirite?

[–] kiterios@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I believe in separation of church and state. But I can't vote for anyone who doesn't follow the same god and interpret scripture as a perfect decision making guide because such a person has already demonstrated a deficient decision making capability."

-Paraphrased quote from my parents

[–] plateee@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Anyway, I'm voting for this constantly cheating pedophile who ran his casino into the ground. Because the price of eggs is high."

-Additional paraphrased quote from mine

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 1 week ago

That’s not true at all!

Tap for spoilerIt was three casinos

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Won't you please think of the decorum?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The Bible bans usury, which is the basis of the American capitalist economic system.

And Christians just ignore it.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Christians banned it for most of the history of Christianity. Starting in the late Middle Ages, the way they'd game the system was by having Jews do the lending at interest, which they were OK doing as long as it was the goyim on the receiving end. Some of the Italian city-states also started doing interest-bearing loans around that time. Then, when Protestantism started, everyone got into the game.

Islam forbids it too. So they've developed slightly different financial mechanisms which in most regards work similarly to interest. The big difference is that lenders have more skin in the game. And for that reason, most Muslim countries that actually ban interest (many ignore the ban) have a problem with systematic underinvestment.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I did not know any of that history, so thank you for sharing. Fascinating stuff.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

That's the problem with very thick books, you just can't remember everything ...

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[–] heliotrope@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I miss that brief period of time when dipshits like this would be told "Okay, buddy" and escorted out of the building.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

All this just because they don't treat mental illness for free in the US.

[–] CalemitousVariantK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Oh for sure. And doesn't the Bible say how it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven? We must confiscate the wealth of all those poor billionaires at once for the salvation of their souls!

[–] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

He also thinks the OT law, including slavery, should be imposed on everyone. His opinions are invalid.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's...

That means pay your fucking taxes, it's none of the church's business.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Doesn't the quaran already have that covered? Sounds like he'd better convert ..

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