Chicago Bears

As someone in a previous thread said, if you think it’ll happen, MHJ is +2000 to go #1.

But reality is a thing and the Bears are taking either Caleb or Maye #1.

Yes, a WR hasn’t been taken number 1 since 1996

Well kinda. WR has gone first overall just 3 times in nfl history, and not since Keyshawn Johnson almost 30 years ago. Ultimately, unless the cardinals trade down or decide to make Kyler a $40m/year backup, it may be necessary.

MHJ or 2 future first round picks and 3 day 2 picks. Potentially a good, proven player as well. Pretty easy choice in my mind. People need to quit believing MHJ is the messiah who’s as valuable as a franchise QB.

I think Poles is hoping whoever finished 2 or 3 wants to move up to take a QB. That way he can trade down for additional picks. Otherwise, Poles may want to take a QB.

Nope it's pretty smart to do it that way still some good qbs at 4 and 5 if we want to do that way. Oregon's QB would be fine

I think we should trade our top five picks for two sets of hauls. I feel like there are enough good players in this draft that we'll be able to have our cake and eat it too.

Yes. If you don’t need a QB the value of the pick to a team that does is far more than any WR. If you have another top 5 pick already it would be even more insane to take him at 1.

If the bears take a WR top 10 watch for another shit season.

A receiver hasn't gone 1 in 30 years. Yes its crazy to take a WR at 1, even crazier this year. Organization malpractice.

No one picking 1 is drafting MHJ. If you don’t like Williams or Maye you trade back for a haul and take someone else. A QB is getting picked #1, else I will sniff glue.

I don’t see a world we don’t either take a QB or trade back it’s just to valuable of a pick not to get some assets

I think there's a realistic scenario where the Bears end up with two high picks, decide to keep Fields, trade the 1st pick for a big return, then still draft MHJ.

I don't think you can get Williams and MHJ though. MHJ + Maye MIGHT be possible but is incredibly unlikely.

The Bears should trade the #1 pick to the Texans for C.J. Stroud and then trade Justin Fields and the #5 pick to the Patriots for the #3 pick to get MHJ.

My unpopular opinion amongst Redditors, but not actual football experts is that if the Bears get two top five picks, they need to move #1 to some team that desperately needs a QB (the Bears don't) get a lower pick and maybe a player or two that can help immediately. There are far too many holes on the team (especially the sieve like defense) that can't be fixed by adding Harrison or a new QB. You have the high picks, get the most bang for your buck in terms of quantity of upper echelon picks. There are many, many areas that need reinforcement. The defensive line (pass rush) the offensive line (Bears QB still running for their lives) and the defensive back field. Mahomes, Goff, Wilson, and others picked the secondary apart. Part of that is because of poor pass rush, but coverage was bad in those losses too.

Yes because MHJ is not worth more than the trade package we got from CAR (which included a #1 WR)

You could possibly get Crosby and 3 1st round picks out of the Raiders in a trade this year.

A franchise QB is worth more than the package we got from CAR (when you don't have a QB).

This is a new idea how did you come up with this

The infatuation this sub has with MHJ is insane. I understand that he might be a generational player at the position, but until we have the QB situation figured out…it doesn’t matter. We need an answer with Fields, and if he’s not it…we are absolutely taking Caleb/Maye with that first pick. MHJ will be gone top 3.

I don't think it's crazy but a huge gamble. MHJ and Bo Nix? or MHJ and top DE/DT would be nice too.

Or you can you also go Caleb Williams and Brock Bowers or Malik Nabers,

Crazy like a fox.

Yes. We should pick Williams.

ITT - people acting like the NFL draft is an exact science

The only way we do that is if we run it back with the trifecta of Poles, Flus, and Fields all staying.

A brand new coach is not going to want to come in and tie his career to a year 4 Fields and pass on an opportunity to start fresh with a first overall QB.

Draft MJH at 2 or3 after swapping picks and getting a 2025 first rounder for the #1 pick and also add Jayden Daniels in the mid to late first with draft Capital and he can sit for a year (and put on some weight) and take over for Fields in 2025. Take best Edge with the other first rounder.

Idc what anyone says. MHJ is the only sure thing in the draft. Get him and get an OL next.

One more year with Justin to decide for good.

1OA

First time visiting this Sub? That's all we've been talking about for last 2 months, lol

MHJ is going 1

I think the only way that happens is if the cards are at 2 or maybe 3. Otherwise I think we could figure out a trade to ensure we got MHJ.

That said if we keep Poles he’s just gonna scapegoat Fields and taking Caleb Winless.

Ideally if we keep Fields the best case is to have AZ or NE move up to #1 and we get a little something and still take MHJ at 2 or 3. That being said, it takes 2 to tango and maybe they will stand pat. I have no problem with taking him at #1, because he is the best player in the draft.

Who's to say the Bears don't end up with picks 1 & 3?