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I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 339 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 year ago (12 children)

This is the way (Jellyfin here)

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[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn't consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

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[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Until Plex gets unbearable as well. They have been getting a lot shittier lately.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 214 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What brand? so I know NOT to buy it

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 127 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I believe it's Roku. That purple symbol in the bottom right is on the remote as well.

Very budget so this doesn't surprise me.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

Also beneath the purple asterisk is the words "Roku TV" in grey on the bezel

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[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Teon@kbin.social 160 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anytime you see the word "smart" in the name of the product, remember to mentally replace the word "smart" with "tracking".

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

"Ad enabled"

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They’re taking pictures of what you’re watching on the screen and sending it to random 3rd party data collectors to analyze and then harass you with ads.

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[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is why my TV does not have internet access.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I really don't get why you would allow your tv Internet access anyways. A huge number of them carry tons of spyware that not only is on the TV but creates backdoors into your network.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Even if you must own a smart TV (because it's impossible to buy a large-ish TV anymore that isn't), I see no reason to actually connect it to any network. But! I notice recent models will bitch at you on every single power on if you leave them disconnected. So you're not even safe from being annoyed then.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Some people get big computer monitors instead of a TV, because of shit like this.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the route I took. I recently bought a 48" 4K monitor, hooked a mini PC up to it, and now I stream my movie and TV show collection through Plex. I still have Internet access on my "TV," but I'm in control of what pops up (I block all ads on my home network). I just use a small wireless keyboard and mouse instead of a remote.

I haven't actually owned a TV since about 2008. I have better media options through computers, and the technology just keeps getting better. Cable and public access television are a pain because you're constantly bombarded with ads. With my own computer, I can circumvent ads and get a solid viewing experience.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Where am I gonna get an 85" monitor for under $1k?

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (10 children)

And this is why we buy dumb TVs

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[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You like this episode of Futurama. Would you also like to watch this episode of Futurama?

We noticed you found a way to watch this episode without ads. We suggest watching it from one of our providers so they get a cut.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Now that is some serious privacy invading.

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 61 points 1 year ago

on my TV

good joke

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 58 points 1 year ago (14 children)

We need a Lemmy community dedicated to find, repair and exchange dumb TV. These are become increasingly rare and increasingly needed.

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[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The comments suggesting the system sends 2 screenshots a second is truly worrying.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might take 2 screenshots a second, but I suspect that will be hashed in some way, even if just to save their on incoming bandwidth rather than for privacy reasons.

It's still fucking absolute bullshit though, and has at least told me that anything with Roku written on it is well worth avoiding.

See this shit. They're fucking proud of it.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (35 children)

The SMART thing to do is to buy a DUMB TV. Pay a little more and get a real TV- you know. A display, with speakers and HDMI inputs. Nothing else.

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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On your Roku TV go to Settings > Privacy > Select Smart TV Experience and disable "Use Info from TV Inputs"

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disable ACR on your TV. There was a news report that came out last week about this very thing.

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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 year ago

Drink verification can, peasant.

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago
[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

The pitch doesn't need to make logical sense. The entire purpose of horrible shit like this is so some asswipe with a marketing degree can say "look boss, I did a thing". Welcome to late stage capitalism, where no one ever gets fired for shoving another advertisement in somewhere.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

And this concludes the enshitification of everything.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Turn off Smart TV experience on your Roku.

Disable Roku Snooping

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have two TVs. One is 15 years old, the other is so old that, even though it is still HD (only 720p but it's fine for me) it still has component video.

I will use those TVs until they die and not buy a new one unless I have no choice. I haven't seen a single feature on a "smart" TV that I want and a lot that I don't.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Yes, worse, but also more money on something you don't own - you just don't get it, bro... It's ~~progress~~ sorry I always confuse those words, profits.

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (12 children)

One reason why I opted for a monitor instead of a TV. AFAIK monitors don't do this shit.

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good luck finding a 65"+ monitor at a reasonable price.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago

That's terrible. This is why we need Foss

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pihole or similar DNS blocking. I can't recommend it enough. My smart TVs are the #1 offender on my network. The only thing that will try to pull in more ads are my wife's mobile games.

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[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 22 points 1 year ago

If they can do it, they will. It's ad dollars to them, as good as any others.

Don't let them do it. Buy dumb electronics, or at least smart electronics you can use airgapped.

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I rooted my 2013 Samsung TV and overclocked it from 800 to 1200Mhz (the whole system is actually build for 1200Mhz but only the Highend-Ones are qualified for it). To my surprise the amount of data it send to Samsung was quite reasonable but still I removed most of it. Full removal of Internet is not an option because then I lose HbbTV and Prime TV which is like 50% of what I use that device for. And since I rooted it I also use it for BS and the public broadcasting mediatheks. Also, it now runs Quake2 in 1920x1080 in ~20fps.

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