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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If you canot afford to pay your workers a decent wage, then it is irresponsible for you to own a business.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

It means you don't have a viable business plan lol

If you can't cover any other cost of doing business, it's "aw shucks that's unfortunate, this is why most businesses go under, better luck next time." But if you can't cover payroll it's supposed to be different?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Yup, cut the woe is me shit. All your employees are hopefully just going to fo somewhere that didn't do all of that.

If you can't figure out how to run a business if you are actually required to pay your employees you shouldn't have a business.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay, but then where will I get my Fat burgers?

[–] 4zi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Don’t worry the invisible hand will provide

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Bussiness man: i deserve profit because i take risks!

Same dude: i should be completely sheltered from any consequences of the risks i take

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im still processing this. California is a corporatized hell scape. And when large companies can write laws that give them the advantage they will. Creating sudden up front costs is a way larger companies can edge out smaller competitors.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (9 children)

i don't care about the plight of small business owners

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[–] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just gotta squeeze "family-owned" in there somewhere 🙄

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

Are you questioning the wholesomeness of having his kids listed as the owners of several of his restaurants to reduce his tax liability?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Boater kulak uses family as rhetorical human shields against struggling employees who also have families, many such cases!

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm a small business owner, and I'm preparing for the new $20 minimum wage by smashing my dick with this hammer

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

by smashing my employees' dicks with this hammer

Followed shortly by

nobody wants to get their dicks smashed anymore

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Dick Smashing hours were cut, gotta help pull weight around here

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

raising menu prices, reducing staff, and making the staff angry at the business will surely be a good long-term play for the business!

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The business goes under because no one wants to eat there because it's overpriced and understaffed. This guy is going to blame the minimum wage increase.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

frothingfash BIG GOVERNMENT drove me out of business and oh NOBODY WANTS TO WORK (15-25 hours a week with 100% availability)

[–] Des@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

i swear these guys all look the same. it's like reality is doing generative AI but for boomer petty bourgeoisie

maybe natural selection will give them all an 11th finger so they'll be easier to identify in the post-revolution exodus

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

Of course he uses a picture of himself in front of an in-ground pool

Gotta remind everyone what he stands to lose if he's forced to pay people what they actually earn

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

Kulaks gonna kulak.

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

So things would run smoother without your petty bourgeois ass in the way? Hmmm good to know thank you sir

[–] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

“Small business tyrant” is my favorite phrase I’ve added to my lexicon from this place. It’s caught on with some of my friends too lmao

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A Fatburger operator told Business Insider how the pay hike was impacting his family-owned stores

  • Fatburger. This name is the essence of burgerpunk. If you made it up as a joke it would be too over the top.
  • Small business tyrant pissing and moaning over having to treat employees with a minimum of decency.
  • Family-owned. We're supposed to think some poor old grandma is feeling really sad about this
  • Stores. Plural. This guy owns several stores but somehow he's the victim who's being squeezed

This sentence is one of the most profoundly American things I have ever read.

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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Oh man, if we didn’t raise minimum wage fast food would be so much cheaper. Thats why where the minimum wage is still $7.25 a Big Mac still costs $4.77.

Wait, a Big Mac doesn’t still cost $4.77? Oh shit oh fuck.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The argument I used to believe when I was young but now never do is “if we pay fast food workers 15 an hour, the price of a burger will double in price too”

For reference, minimum wage hourly rate in my state is roughly half of 15 dollars (like it is almost everywhere) so the idea was that doubling minimum wage would double the cost of goods sold.

That doesn’t make any sense. Sure, the cost will rise, but by no means does it mean that the cost will double. There is no economic law or observed rule that conclusively states that an increase in minimum wage equates to a dollar per dollar cost per item. It’s just funny that I used to think that was true until I actually thought about it and realized how little sense it made

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Cost won't rise because cost is determined by what people will pay for it rather than what it costs to produce. Any price rise is based on competition in the local area and whether it will decrease total customers.

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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

ahh but you see, this smol bean business owner only sells one borger per employee so the cost has to double

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

There's counties with higher minimum wages that also have McDonald's but their burgers are only slightly more expensive, like under a buck.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

If your business doesn't have the finances to pay a decent wage, maybe you should have run it better shrug-outta-hecks

[–] leftofthat@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

I love that when they were going to approve minimum wage increases, folks were whining that it would destroy all of those jobs.

Now that the increase is happening, instead of those jobs disappearing, suddenly there are SO MANY that it's giving every worker a chance to just switch jobs.

econony

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These are all franchisees. These people have no real power other than controlling labor costs.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"I'm a small business owner!" no, deary, you're just the fall guy for a massive international firm. For a fraction of the profits, you get the privilege of holding all the risk of actually operation a restaurant.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think they actually get almost all of the profits of the store. The fast food company makes money from the franchise license, rent, and supplying the equipment and food

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Correct. The corp gets paid first out of the gross, totally protected. Franchisees only wiggle room to increase their profit is labor costs.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Technically they could also just increase revenue with better marketing and customer service but we all know they would never try that first over slashing employee operating expenses

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Well yeah, that would actually take work and require them to spend money. Fucking with prols is free, and they enjoy it

[–] discountsocialism@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The franchise sets the food prices on both sides too so they can precisely control profitability.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Using minimum wage hike to cover laying off delivery drivers cause they can outsource to gig workers for free.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting...

Hey, how about we call up landlords and tell them to provide free rent? That should lower the costs of many restaurants to compensate, so that way consumer prices won't go up and maybe go down? Right? Right?

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

The line will never stop going up even if I have to shoot myself in the foot! Take that!

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

If you had the money to buy a fast food franchise, you don't need to own a fast food franchise to get rich. You already are

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And most importantly I'm going to the press about it!

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

So you mean all those minimum wage workers about to make a pittance more aren't spending all their extra money on fast food and pizza???

I guess they need that money for housing costs and reasonable standards of living >:(

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Raise wages by 25 percent, raise prices by 25 percent, you still win on the constant capital amortization. Fucking dum dum

[–] material_delinquent@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

This is not as scary as they think it is when you are a gig forced-conscript-mercenary juggling four jobs that can fill any gaps (usually they just adjust your hours so total income stays the same and you work more at the other funko-pop-salespost, so income still slightly goes up, at least at my place these scenarios are now a joke mostly) obv holidays lost suck, but fuck this wanker

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