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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you're saying we get free tickets

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh God I just realized if they're going to deport Palestinian Americans they'd have to deport them back to their home country, thereby actually literally returning Palestinians home. Maybe Trump is on to something!

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[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Please say China

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[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lol. So he wants to illegally expell US citizens, who can then immediately return to the country. I know he's just trying to play it up for his base, but holy shit they can't be so braindead that they believe it would actually happen...right?

[–] Optimus_Subprime@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I'm not saying it couldn't happen. But it is (on paper) against federal law and would probably cause a shit storm

[–] Optimus_Subprime@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it is (on paper) against federal law and would probably cause a shit storm

Yeah it would now, mostly because of people on Twitter. But then again, remember the US bombed it's own citizens, mulitple times. What makes you think they give a shit about catching flak for illegal deportations?

I know you were mostly speaking about Trump's base being gullible, but the subject to me is the question "Will the US prosecute itself for anything illegal it has done?" History has shown me that the answer is no.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also let's be honest here, there probably won't be much pushback from liberals who'll be too happy that they're being proven right and will be going 'told ya so!' to (most assuredly) Palestinian Americans/Muslim Americans who are being deported for opposing genocide.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

They'll just call them Hamas supporters to justify it all. Didn't want to be deported? Shouldn't have supported Hamas then. maybe-later-kiddo

[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Fair point.

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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What I still don’t understand about this, even though I know it happened, is how do you deport someone to a country they’re not from? Is being deported just a free ticket to any country? If I find the nearest ICE agent and say “Oui oui honhonhon baguette, please deport me” does that get me free entry to France?

Like, many Americans may not know this, especially the government, but other countries do have immigration laws of their own. I can’t comprehend why Mexico doesn’t go “Hey you can’t just drop off random US citizens in our country”

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Well Mexico obviously didn't have much say in it, they are completely vassalized and without sovereignty to just accept millions of people being population transferred onto them.

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

The USA also deported anarchists and communists who were American citizens early on in the red scare IIRC.

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The current guy said he'd cure cancer.

[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't recall curing cancer being a federal crime tho

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[–] tree@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If this was applied it would just be a way of silencing international students/faculty who support Palestine on campuses and to a lesser extent other people on visas. Do people not remember the last Muslim ban? He would totally do something like this. I don't why you start off your comment with "Lol" have you never met someone on a visa or an international student. Someone like him would gladly start sicking ICE on pro Palestine students without citizenship. I'm honestly baffled on the level of joking around in these comments. Like haha send me to China LOL, maybe just for a second think if this is not a joke to other people. I think it would be a travesty if something like this could happen.

CLIVE, Iowa, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump promised on Monday that if elected president again he will bar immigrants who support Hamas from entering the U.S. and send officers to pro-Hamas protests to arrest and deport immigrants who publicly support the Palestinian militant group.

Trump, president from 2017-2021, said that if elected to a second White House term he will ban entry to the U.S. of anybody who does not believe in Israel's right to exist, and revoke the visas of foreign students who are "antisemitic."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pledges-expel-immigrants-who-support-hamas-ban-muslims-us-2023-10-16/

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fuck yeah, deport me! DEPORT ME BAYBEEEEEE! SEND ME SOMEWHERE BETTER lets-fucking-go

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago
[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the type of thing that keeps his supporters and fellow racists happy. Biden can do all the dogwhistles and war-mongering genocidal campaigns he wants. They'll always see him as soft because he has a D next to his name.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This is anecdotal, but none of the Trump types in my life care at all about Israel or Palestine. Most had never heard of them. The conservative vibe I get is they don't want any interaction with other countries, including cooperation with Israel. They want the US completely closed off, like Japan or Paraguay used to be.

Most telling of all, I'm in a bunch of reactionary Facebook groups to keep up with them. Like the types with middle aged suburban dads. Hardly any of them talk about Hamas. Their current thing is fearmongering about immigrants from the southern border again. It's in half of their memes or angry grandma posts.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want the US completely closed off, like Japan or Paraguay used to be.

This crowd are probably more dangerous to the US' continued global dominance than we are lmao.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isolationism has historically had more success in the United States than the Communists have in regard to affecting U.S policy

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Same experience as me. The younger ones that I've spoken to are more frustrated with their tax dollars going to Israel. The Neoliberal Dems are the ones getting rock-hard from the Israel-Palestine war.

But Trump saying something like this still wins them over because he mentions the word "deported" and that's all they need to hear to like it.

Edit: Tbf right-wingers and Trump types I know are more aware of Israel and Palestine than the average is because they live in an area with a large Jewish population.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

yeah I was going to say this might be very geographic. Southern conservatives don't care about Israel unless they're a specific type of evangelical, but they care more about Israel as a spiritual concept rather than a country. Most of them have never interacted with a Jewish person or a Muslim. All they see are a big block of people who aren't Americans. Everyone outside of America is the same to them, foreigners to be avoided and never thought about.

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[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

A completely isolated and closed-off America is a vast improvement over the current America

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[–] MSgtRedFox 12 points 1 year ago

soft

I figured he was soft because he's 81, we keep getting to chose between two dudes with dementia. Definitely both should be representing the United States to the rest of the world

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[–] M68040@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck to him. I love hamas. I hamased twice on the way to this thread

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

wash ur hand before returning to posting

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago
[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Just more slop for the frothingfash

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Anti-imperialist president!

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no don't deport me to Vietnam which is a beautiful country that has a communist government and an expat community, noooooooooo

[–] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously though, send me to Ireland and revoke my US citizenship. That's my end of life goal anyway, fuck this Western slough of a nation.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

The deported hexbear bar in Dublin is going to be lit.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To the people joking around here just because you are a citizen and safe from this many people are not.

CLIVE, Iowa, Oct 16 (Reuters) - Donald Trump promised on Monday that if elected president again he will bar immigrants who support Hamas from entering the U.S. and send officers to pro-Hamas protests to arrest and deport immigrants who publicly support the Palestinian militant group.

Trump, president from 2017-2021, said that if elected to a second White House term he will ban entry to the U.S. of anybody who does not believe in Israel's right to exist, and revoke the visas of foreign students who are "antisemitic."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-pledges-expel-immigrants-who-support-hamas-ban-muslims-us-2023-10-16/

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no one believes they're safe from this. we're under no illusions that an order like this wouldn't also target us - we're communists, the fascists always target us sooner rather than later. but it's better to laugh than to succumb to the call of the void. fascists are very funny people. laugh at their antics. it's cathartic.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

tbh it seems more like a lot of people having a blindspot to people without permanent citizenship/residency, a very underrepresented and marginalized group to begin with. the statement is obviously targeted towards non citizens residing in the US.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The constitution is a piece of paper. If a sitting President decides to deport citizens nothing can stop them.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Send me back to Europe please

[–] BovineUniversity@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People itt very convinced that China for some reason would be willing to take them in

hope you're all microchip engineers or something

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Lmao just more bullshit to talk

[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Trump would have coasted to an easy victory this November with all the Muslim-Americans and their allies staying home in protest of Genocide Joe. But this is a huge blunder on Trump's part which will potentially galvanize those voters to come out in support of Biden again.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s not a blunder, that’s just the system working as intended.

The Republican Party will always be paving the way for the Democrats to move further right. This is because the electoral system is designed to punish voters who think they can opt out of the two-party system. If you don’t want to vote for the Democrats, you will get someone worse, and all the smug liberals will be scolding you for the next 4 years: “look what you have done! all the minorities are suffering because of you! it was literally your fault for not voting Biden!”

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[–] xj9@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

don't threaten me with a good time bub

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There has to be some crossover between not wanting to give billions to foreign powers and Trump supporters. Seems like a blunder if his opponent wasn't ideologically identical and intentionally losing. I can't think of a way to exploit it without suggesting a red-brown alliance for a ceasefire. Maybe converting a few by allowing exposure to a trans person they think is cool.

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[–] autism_2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Fuck, I just subscribed to their Patreon

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Please trump, render me stateless I’m begging you. I’ll actually be able to claim asylum where my ancestors were from if you do.

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