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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's so fucking evil how Western media ignores how and why "Taiwan" exists. They don't even call it by it's own name, the RoC. It's a deliberate framing to make it look like the PRC just wants to "invade" just because muh evil commies.

Aaaaaaaah I hate it.

[–] Goadstool@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I think it's quite a good thing, actually. It makes it very easy to undermine the propaganda, when you expose why a situation exists in the first place to someone spouting said propaganda without knowing the history. Same goes like double for Korea.

It's especially funny the way all the geopolitics for toddlers explainers switch between "Taiwan is the most important part of all of this and linchpin of the first island chain" and "Look at all the claims on the South China Sea, the PRC's one is evil and greedy. Why didn't we draw Taiwan's claim on the map too? No reason."

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The glitch: Peaceful reunification, because even somehow winning a conflict against the world's largest economy, 100 miles off your coast, that has been preparing for this for half a century, is far, far worse than the alternative.

Then again, if Ukraine is anything to go by, we're gonna get some comprador gov't put a rifle in every man, woman, and child's hands, followed by the US bombing TSMC.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A Taiwanese tycoon has announced his plan to train 3.3 million “civilian warriors” and marksmen to defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion, using one billion Taiwan dollars ($32m) of his own money.

The announcement by Robert Tsao, a well-known Taiwanese businessman and founder of United Microelectronics Corp, a major microchip producer, comes amid increasing military activity between Taiwan and China. On Thursday Taiwan’s defence ministry announced its soldiers had shot down a Chinese drone over Taiwan’s Kinmen islands.

At a press conference on Thursday, Tsao, 75, said the Chinese Communist party (CCP) threat to Taiwan was growing. Wearing a bulletproof vest and helmet, he pledged funds to train “three million people in three years”. Working with the island’s civilian defence organisation, the Kuma Academy, 60% of the funds would go towards building an army of “warriors”, and 40% to training another 300,000 in how to shoot.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

i love private militias run by random billionaires we need more of those come on elon come on bezos what are y'all waiting for get to it

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

to train 3.3 million “civilian warriors” and marksmen to defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion, using one billion Taiwan dollars ($32m)

Ten dollars per guy seems suspiciously cheap

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At that price, why don't we have our own army?

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Real "Enemy at the Gates" one rifle for two men vibe

It's because Taiwan numbah one. You wouldn't understand.

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but Taiwan already has mandatory military service? Though it wouldn't surprise me if dudes never even touch a gun and just spend their conscription years cleaning toilets and driving their COs around town.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The irony of this guy trying to have a low cost Guerilla army a la Viet Cong or the early PLA to fight against the CPC is lost to him, I guess.

Oh yes, 14% of the population will definitely sign up to fight for this guy who to them is like, their neighbor's boss' boss. That's just an insane fraction of the population to have in the military, on the same kind of scale as the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.

[–] geikei@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah there isnt a fervent anti-China nationalist mythology and hatred among the Taiwanese at nearly the degree that has been constructed in Ukraine for a century now. Much different cultural mindsets too. Taiwan would fold socialy in any attempt to have them fight any attritional, mass mobilization war against the Chinese. Ukraine had hundreds of thousands of fascists frothing in the mouth for Russian blood with penetration at every level of politics and civil society , let alone the army. And a russophobic population ready to jump into "this is an existential war that we must fight till the last man" narrative fed to them. There wont be any mass ability or willingness to die by the tens of thousands on a war against the mainland. Hell they would probably fold after 2 weeks of Naval blockade of Oil/Gas/coal if the US doesnt try to break it, let alone fight on trenches on the beaches

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

tl'dr; Taiwanese aren't mayos

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Then again, if Ukraine is anything to go by, we're gonna get some comprador gov't put a rifle in every man, woman, and child's hands, followed by the US bombing TSMC.

Nah, the PRC is too busy bribing Taiwanese top brass to surrender for that to happen.

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

"And then the communism particles just bounce off the free market forcefield"

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This dudes videos keep getting recommended to me and I hate it.

I think I watched Boy Boy and I Did A Thing on Hasan's stream dunking on a RealLifeLore video on China so the AI thinks I care about RLL. Shit sucks

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

his voice and manner of speech are very annoying

the channel name also reminds me of what happened in 2010 with the term "food porn". It's just pictures of food, but they gotta call it "porn" because sexbrained, and it's just geography/geopolitics but we gotta call it "lore" now because gamerbrained

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[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it the same “taiwan has mountains in the middle of the island making the invasion hard” and “we can always nuke the three gorges dam and collapse the ccp” rhetoric strategies?

That shit has been Taiwan tabloid tv level geopolitical strategy.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's like the Asian version of British chuds harping on about the all-powerful Royal Navy when they don't even know how to steer a ship

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Shoutout to the HMS Shittington and that other ship

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their brand new carrier on cinder blocks being stripped for parts will never stop being funny.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

They heard the Chinese ~~slaves~~ cleaners were being replaced by a not-as-delectable underclass, so they decided why even bother

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t need to have a navy. The strategy implies that the US would step in.

So you know the rammification

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Part of me has to wonder: what are the impacts on national self-identity of being utterly reliant on a third-party for defense against the historical opposing nation? It has to be one of those things nationalists shove under the rug, right?

Like how Texans ignore they lost the war with Mexico so hard they’d be part of Mexico again/still if they didn’t beg to become a state.

Or how Americans pretend the French didn’t win the bourgeois revolution for us.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Like how Texans ignore they lost the war with Mexico so hard they’d be part of Mexico again/still if they didn’t beg to become a state.

Remember the Alamo, just not its context

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

tbh, any national right wing capitalist states from the modern era are mostly propped up by imperial powers. The nationalistic narratives is mostly for local consumption and a way to discipline the population.

Any actual nationalistic aspiration is viable if it is Left wing and anti-capitalist because its main goal is to break away from the imperial system.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The island that imports almost all of its fuel and most of its food will rely on the country that can't even protect commercial shipping from the Houthis in the event of conflict with the producer of the world's most sophisticated anti-ship weapons.

What could go wrong?

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US is counting on them to become a desperate vassal state that they can turn into a military base just like Australia and a bunch of other struggling island nations

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if the US will learn any lessons from the current situation in the Middle East where a bunch of forward bases which are difficult to resupply and cannot mutually support each other are more of a liability than an asset.

Probably not.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They won't.

They will continue to keep losing wars until they collapse under their own weight like the Roman Empire, because they believe in some spiritual and/or pseudoscientific woo about manifest destiny, wealth, and whiteness making them the world's main characters or some shit. They really believe they're the world's chosen people.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Those aren't "forward deployed bases", sweaty, they're "trip wire" bases. maybe-later-kiddo

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Popcorn shortage antelope-popcorn

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they going to call China a hacker and lamer when it inevitably takes over?

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

"wtf lag! Hax! i-spil-my-jice UN ban them!"

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Hey cracker dipshit, I know nobody has had the heart to tell you, but you need to hear it: no amount of stock footage infotainment sludge is going to stop China.

[–] Marxism_Edelethism@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you want to know the level of analysis we're dealing with, this dude has a video basically titled 'North Korea is going to attack ukriane'

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

HOI4 late game

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

The channel is the biggest cope I've seen in a whlie

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has Xi considered that I hacked the dev console?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

holds the Ctrl key while pressing the ~ key with one hand and typing IDKFA with with the other

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Second image tshirt: Buddhism but crap

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

It have you considered that karma and ELO are very similar systems? /joke

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago
[–] ICEMAN@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

The lore guy can't even get Kinmen Island right.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The Gorbino's Quest of Geopolitics

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine seing an invasion or large scale attack on Taiwan. What I absolutely can imagine is seeing them go the way of Tibet, where they start cooperating and China is all carrot and no stick, and then you just stop hearing about them in Western media. And that would honestly be just fine.

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