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So basically the same thing with upgraded hardware?
That can be a good thing. Iterative improvement is vastly underrated.
I mean, there wasn't a lot wrong with the switch to begin with.
It couldn’t even play first-party games at a solid 30 fps, and the sticks on the joycons were infamously shitty.
Both of which are fixed with doing the same, but upgrading the hardware...?
Yeah exactly. If those things are fixed and it's got a better battery and CPU/GPU and more RAM, that's great. Nintendo had a history of just going in completely different directions with every generation, so it's good to see them just try and improve on a good thing.
Well don't forget the DSi, New 3DS, or the Gameboy Color. This feels like pretty much the same as any of those.
That's what I said. Really though, that is basically what all consoles are. They just used to get really dramatic upgrades because the period of time they released have been big growth periods. These days? Everyone has conformed to the same thing and given up on proprietary stuff. Then I thought about how this really is odd for Nintendo since they genuinely strive to offer something unique and new each time. Then I realized it's also called switch 2 so I don't feel like they did anything wrong since what did I expect to change when they are literally telling you what it is which is pretty much defined already.
In the end, I think it's a smart move. It's the least disruptive path and probably the cheapest route for them to continue on and as long as the thing is really powerful I think it's a good idea to continue the brand for another 5 years. I do have my doubts that it will be powerful so that we'll just have to wait and see. Nintendo has never been big on offering up the most powerful hardware, so I expect it to be a few years behind already.
That was most of the tech industry when I was growing up. When I was 13, a computer with a 66 Mhz processor and 32Mb RAM was a beast of a machine, and only 6 years later in '99, we had broken the 1Ghz CPU barrier and were typically installing 256Mb to a whole Gigabyte of RAM.
These days, I can still decently run the majority of modern games on a 12 year old machine. The "home computer revolution" that started in the 80s has most definitely flatlined and nothing very interesting is happening anymore. Kinda the same thing that happened to smartphones. Where now taking shit away (like the headphone jack) is considered "innovation".
Edit: There used to be a joke in the 90s that when you bought a new PC, it was already obsolete by the time you carried it out of the store.
That joke still applies to mostly everything now 🤷♂️
It feels like they are following their handheld releases
Game Boy > Game Boy Pocket > Game Boy Color Game Boy Advanced > Game Boy Advanced SP DS > DSi > DSi XL 3DS > 3DS XL / 2DA > 2D XL
Though this is the first time they are just using a number.
Don't forget the N3DS which actually was more powerful than the original and had the second, tiny analog stick.
I knew I forgot one. I actually forgot my 3DXL is actually a New version
Looks like it. I agree with the yt comment. They just wanted to get it out so the rumors don't take control.
Looks like some games may not work via the warning at the end.
That's kind of expected, even without weird peripherals.
Every time a console offers platform level BC there are a few games that uses some undocumented trick to run on the original hardware and end up having trouble on the new hardware.
This is how Sony presents the situation, stating that 4000+ ps4 titles will work on ps5 and then naming the few that don't:
https://www.playstation.com/en-au/support/games/ps5-backward-compatibility-games/#only
IIRC the list was a little bit longer at first but some devs patched their titles to fix compatibility.
I am still holding out hope for something really cool from the software side.
Welcome to computer hardware upgrades.
@someguy3
I already have upgraded hardware that can run switch games. It's called a computer. I built it mostly using parts being sold at offices that were going out of business. I only needed to buy a GPU and a decent PSU. I found a free open source OS, booted it up and installed an open source program called ryujinx. And I barely have any issues playing games on it.
Imagine if Nintendo, instead of wasting all this time, money, rare earth minerals, and contributing to global heating by manufacturing these rather pointless consoles, simply developed games that could be ran on a computer or decently powerful smart phone.
They could focus on making games.
Why are you in the Nintendo community for console gamers commenting about emulation?
I have a PC that I built that runs Linux Mint. I have a Steam Deck. I can also emulate whatever game I want.
Some Nintendo fans just want to buy Nintendo things and enjoy the experience because they love the games. Let gamers enjoy games no matter how they want to play them.
I am also excited for this new console and will be watching it to see if it’s a good fit me in the future.
Honestly I didn't look at the community, but it shouldn't matter since criticism should be embraced when it's made in good faith. Also I don't care if I get down voted.
I agree 100%. And I like these games too. I'm just saying that it's the games and not the console which is the actual thing that these users love and enjoy.
I doubt users enjoy buying new consoles every few years, dealing with supply chain issues, privacy issues, and contributing to our throw away society.
I used to game on consoles too till my Xbox 360 got a red ring of death, my PS2 just stopped working, and my gamecube stopped reading disks. I realized that I could do nothing to fix them, they had to be recycled, and I would have to replace them with something else. Around the same time I realized how much I can do with a PC. From work, to watching movies, listening to music, and yes even gaming. But the cherry on top was how easy they were to upgrade, change parts, and fix.
I'm not saying that Nintendo shouldn't be involved in how their games run. But I am saying there really should be other options. Even Sony release games on PC.
I deal with tech 24/7. Sometimes I just want push button, no setup gaming. I pc game, I also console game because sometimes software, hardware, drivers and other stuff just get in the way. Just yesterday I was using moonlight to stream from my pc. It refused to display a resolution that worked just 5 minutes prior. After over an hour of troubleshooting, I almost just bought the game on Xbox so I wouldn't have to mess with it.
I primarily place PC games, but you fundamentally misunderstand the target audience, especially domestic in Japan, their habits, and the usecase of the switch for them.
They're already the best in the world at this so idk what you expect firing a few dozen lawyers will add here