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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 124 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unconstitutional. They are now categorically a occupying enemy force.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Where are all the 2A folks who brag nonstop about resisting tyranny?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago

They're wearing ICE badges

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

in thier red states, which trump is avoiding sending ice and troops , by the way where most of the "illegal/undocumented immigrants are", meat packing plants, farm picking crops.,,,etc/.

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 94 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

-Commander William Adama, Battlestar Galactica (2004)

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish they tied up BSG with an ending that demonstrated the cylon plan.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I love BSG, but about half the time I rewatched it I end up just forgetting to continue about when they start working with the cylons. I think they didn't actually know what the plan was when writing the show, and then it just sort of stops.

In my opinion, the show in general just has a very slow steady decline. It starts as some of the best TV I've ever seen, and then they obviously can't just keep doing the same thing and it starts losing it's place I feel.

[–] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There was that TV movie called "The Plan", which was basically about the show from the cylons' perspective, and trying to work their actions into a somewhat coherent narrative. But the titular "plan" was essentially just winging it.

The line from the show's intro though, "and they have a plan", that was not something the showrunners originally wanted. The network made them add it in.

I think I saw a video where the show runners admitted winging it after the first few seasons.

[–] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This violates the Posse Comitatus Act

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is downvoting this? Why? Do they disagree that the act was broken? Do they just dislike armed forces being barred from law enforcement?

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Votes don't matter here, it's not tracked. Some instances don't even display votes either way.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

They matter to just about everyone not on hexbear (for them it really matters but they tell us it does not).

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But it is strange that there are downvotes even on the most of innocuous comments.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] SARGE@startrek.website 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just waiting for protests to be labeled "insurrection"

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

The President has been saying the word so much in the last week

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only Congress can invoke the insurrection act iirc so it's technically still against federal law.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What's one more broken law in the grand scheme of things?

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

"Several days of training"

That seems sufficient /s

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Photos of Guard soldiers providing security for the agents have already been circulated by immigration officials.

Bullshit "providing security". They're the ones who are armed and in armor. They have qualified immunity to do basically whatever they want. The national guard should be there to provide security for the citizenry.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Funny thing about Qualified Immunity.... It's illegal, and had the 1982 SCOTUS been handed the original wording of the law, they wouldn't have any immunity. The law in question was illegally changed by one dude.

http://web.archive.org/web/20230520080201/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless the guard troops are working directly with law enforcement, or are there at the request of the state, or the Insurrection Act has been invoked, none of which have happened or are the case, then it is completely illegal for them to be detaining anyone for any reason. Those troops should be refusing to follow those illegal orders.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but will it be judged legal later by the courts? That is not an academic question and disobeying illegal orders require them to be judged illegal.

The average reservist is not a legal expert but knows things are wacky. They not going to forfeit too much by guessing wrong. Especially when things are mild like this.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not mild, my friend ☹️

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But it is; nobody is shooting except the cops with less than lethals. Compared to serving in Iraq, this is nothing

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

You’re not wrong, but I was referring more to the political situation than the combat one.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

If we make it out the other end the bastard should hang for treason

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So all the rabid 2A’ers are like “now’s our time, let’s go!” right? ……..right????

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure a significant part of them are already on their way to do that .... right after they put on their blue uniform and pick up some more rubber shells.

That’s a bingo!

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The last thing we want to do is mobilize the gun Community. The 2nd Amendment is ony when the 1st Amendment has failed.

So far the 1st is looking strong. I'm so far left that I own many weapons. I also know that we don't want to give the few psychotic military commanders like this a reason to shoot protesters.

Socialists should all have arms and know how and when to use them. Liberals have constantly pushed people on the left to disarm themselves and made claims that only the right have arms. Very few people on the left will tell liberals they own firearms because they have been told to fear the gun instead of the person wielding the firearm.

I hope we never have to fight a protracted guerrilla war in America. We aren't close to that yet, and I pray I never need to use my arms to protect my family and community. That's where gun owners are.

We are only needed when the military fully takes up arms against the population.

Thank you for this excellent and well thought-out response - agree 100%.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

“Detained” my ass.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)
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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Those who work forces...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

Temporarily fucking them a little.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Sucks troops are about to the first to be taken down before cops.

[–] hikeandbike@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

But the title is not correct?

Per the article -

[Sherman] later said he was incorrect, and that he had based his comments on photos and footage he had seen that turned out to not be a representation of Guard members in Los Angeles.

He said that as of Wednesday, none of the troops has detained a protester.

Of course, it's always possible he's not telling the truth.

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