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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 98 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not directly related to this, but I just remembered when the cops shot up that UPS truck with the hostage inside. The hostage was killed by the cops and UPS apologized to the cops.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 75 points 2 years ago (1 children)

killed two bystander motorists in other cars as well, and the police were also taking cover behind occupied vehicles

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Or when they were hunting dorner and killed two innocent women

[–] cryptymythy@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought they survived even though they dumped like a hundred rounds into a truck that was a different make and model

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're right, they survived no thanks to the cops though. The cops were shooting to kill

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Someone recently linked me a compilation of cops losing gunfights, and there are multiple clips where the pigs are trying to shoot someone in the back while they run away, but miss over and over. So, so many of them really are dogshit with their weapons

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Accuracy with a handgun past ten feet is not a trivial skill to obtain.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Definitely not but goddamn thats's like one of their only real jobs lol

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't really agree with that, ideally they shouldn't even have access to any firearms at all. Some forms of peace officers historically never carried arms.

Especially for people who grew up around violence just an officer near you wearing a gun ratchets the stakes up considerably. Then of course they always want to take it out, wave it around and proceed to violate every single element of firearm safety like a sick form of bingo.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Disagree with what? You're talking about how you think things should be, i'm talking about what their actual job actually is. They exist as enforcers for capital, and a lot of them are bad at it.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

As is tradition.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

From my memory it wasn't so much an "apology" as a "we thank you an respect you for your service". Not that it matters a whole lot.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same thing with the "bystander effect" as well which was just the New York Times running cover for the police making the murder of Kitty Genovese even worse for her friends

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago
[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kill every single cop

Death to America

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FYI, posting Discord links with ?ex in the middle will expire at some point, so in future you should copy/save the image and reupload to Hexbear so the post is preserved for future viewers.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Done, but Hexbear images also have expiration dates: aka the server gets borked again and flushes all the images, again. All my ten-upbears OCs, gone

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of when the Ned Kelly gang had taken hostages in their last shootout and they let them go only for the police to open fire on the hostages who then fled back to the gang cause they trusted them more

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, in absolutely any hostage situation you SHOULD develop Stockholm Syndrome. Trying to convince your kidnappers that you are on their side is just a healthy survival instinct doing exactly what it is supposed to, even if you live in a fantasy land where the cops are all good guys who care only about your safety. This is a bit like giving the desire to leave a burning building a name and trying to tell people that it is a mental disorder.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Convincing your kidnappers you're on their side is not stockholm syndrome.

Actually coming to believe it yourself despite the kidnappers not actually valuing your life, against your own material best interests, is the traditional definition.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Sure, but the traditional definition is based on a real hostage situation and it is specifically based on how those people acted while still being held hostage. Once they were free it turned out that they didn't actually enjoy being held hostage and didn't love their captors. Convincing their kidnappers that they were on their side is pretty much all they were doing.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

What the fuck

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Bus 174 is a documentary about street kid who took a bus hostage. Throughout they make references to a deadly outcome and when they got to that part, it turns out the police fucked up and caused the deaths.

It's a good documentary despite it being made by the same guy who went on to make narcos.