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[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 74 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The democrats must try harder to appeal to the people who say they eat babies

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

Have you tried eating just 5% to 10% of a baby to bring in more of the baby eater voters?

[–] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So all the people that were barking that we could push Biden to the left are now advocating for pushing Biden even further to the right.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is it possible for the Democrats to be more rightwing?

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The Democrats? Biden? Right wing? Absurd.

That would imply that he had continued most of Trump's policies including for immigration, played a key role in provoking and then supplying to the tune of billions of dollars a proxy war in Ukraine that killed and maimed hundreds of thousands and resulted in millions of refugees (and Ukraine will end up a country infested by mines, cluster bombs, and depleted uranium for centuries to come), blown up the Nord Stream pipelines and thus condemned Europe to long-term industrial decline, continued to expand oil drilling, refused to come to any kind of reasonable negotiation on the Iran deal, which America broke and not Iran, stolen Iranian oil, steals the majority of Syria's oil and continued to occupy their country, bailed out banks yet again once they started failing partially in response to interest rates which were increased due to significant inflation (without giving a shit about regular people), presided over the loss of Roe vs Wade without doing much of anything, presided over a national wave of violent anti-transgender policies being enacted without doing much of anything, are likely to soon resume student loan payments, got hundreds of thousands of people killed due to coronavirus while saying that the pandemic is over and now every person and insitution even trying to keep a vague count of the death toll are finding it impossible to do so because the Democrats could not give less of a shit, crushed the railway union strike while pretending that they wanted their strike to be crushed and then cynically went to a picket line to talk about the fucking middle class, shown zero actual resolve against Israel which is conducting an actual genocide against Palestinians while railing against a Ughyur genocide in China, continued putting sanctions on everybody who vaguely disagrees with the US, including on China, to the extent that it's harming America's ability to do a green transition because solar panels are largely made in China, had an obvious role in overthrowing Castillo in Peru and has sent troops there, also overthrew Khan in Pakistan (and probably other places I've forgotten about), raised the military budget to comical levels while every other institution stagnates and declines, and played a key role in using the IMF and other organizations to increase global debt to a record high of $307 trillion in service of American empire.

Are you seriously implying that a kind old man like Joe Biden and a progressive party like the Democrats has done all those things?

(We still have a year left of his presidency, and potentially five years more, and already I think he's up there in the Worst Presidents of All Time rankings in term of pure negative impact on the United States, the world, and its population. The man has shambled around the world leaving death and destruction in his wake - though also critically weakened the empire in the process.)

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Give me an iPad baby hitting decisions from a multiple choice box given by staffers in-between AI generated children's videos and you'd probably get a better track record

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[–] btbt@hexbear.net 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Imagine being such a loser that you think Joseph Robinette Biden’s biggest weakness is that his policies are too aggressive

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[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

jfc this guy has to be the result of a lab experiment to see how much of an annoying lib one person can be, it's uncanny

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I really hate the guy and I used to be surprised that he's not ratioed all the time. Finally I realized that he knows how package his horrible ideas in just the right way so the concepts seem reasonable to many people.

All you need to do is read between the lines to see how bad his opinions are but he knows the average American can't/won't do that.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All you need to do is read between the lines to see how bad his opinions are but he knows the average American can't/won't do that.

he also knows better than to be the host or a frequent guest of a podcast... have you ever heard him speaking? let's just say that his ideas are not the only really annoying thing about him

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Have you ever heard him speaking?

I never had so I googled. At ~0:53... Matthew Yglesias on the Politics of Micromobility and Being Twitter’s Foremost "Ebike Dad" - YouTube. Yeesh. In movies and in tv series - people who say stuff like "Sweatshops are good actually" are reptilian and repulsive. In realty - they are Matty. The worst centrist pundits have such similar voices. There's a centrist way of speaking. I don't know what to call it so I'll call it a centrist brogue.

It's not a whine but it's getting there. In fact - if I was speaking to a centrist online and I used the word "brogue" - they'd lecture me that I don't know what I'm talking about. And if I really think that centrists have a vaguely similar way of talking - I should google to learn the correct linguistic term. I should not use an incorrect term. Of course - in my head I'd convert the text to speech and I'd hear their brogue.

Ezra Klein's producer filled (fills?) in for him on his podcast. A Hexbear made a joke that they sound exactly the same. I didn't quite believe it so I found the podcast and I had a quick listen. If had skipped the intro where the producer explains that he's filling in - I would have simply thought he was Klein himself. People tend to gravitate towards people who are similar so being roughly similar in appearance or voice is not unusual but that shit was beyond belief. It was so weird. They had the same voice.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno if we're talking about the same thing but I've felt this in my bones for years. I think of it as upper-management speak cuz it reminds me of every corporate suit at every meeting i used to have to attend

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

upper-management speak

I've never been in the corporate world but maybe that's it.

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's funny that he can't even take the bag and just become a right-wing grifter and then retire young. Instead he's gotta keep the lib grindset going, causing just as much damage to society but with none of the money.

Yglesias is just a closet conservative who can't imagine coming out because of the social circles he runs in.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Matt Yglesias shut the fuck up challenge

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Difficulty: impossible

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Democrats should do absolutely nothing, ever. Pass no bills. Make no executive orders. Take no legislative action. In fact don't even bring the legislature into session. This is the only way to heal the soul of America

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

It would already be better than what they are actually doing.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I usually don’t like advocating for such things, but Matt Yglesias and Tim Pool deserve to be dragged to a public square and beaten to an inch of death simply for being annoying.

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[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This shit never makes sense. Just cancel all medical debt and they'd win the election

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It would be bad if the democrats actually and seriously said they had a plan to cancel all medical debt. I'd die of shock.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

theyd figure out some way to fuck it up like it would immediately get turned down by some unelected judge or they deliberately sabotage their own proposal by tying it to mandatory sterilization of indigenous people or some shit

[–] btfod@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

The Parliamentarian sleeps... we dare not wake it.

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[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 37 points 2 years ago

Just give up your morals! This is more important than standing up for what you believe in! CANT YOU SEE WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE BIG BAD!! WHAT IF THE OTHER GUY WINS!!!

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

Democracy is when liberals must organize, as a bloc, to make themselves even more reactionary to prove the peoples' worthiness of a second Biden/Harris term.

[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Um actually the Vox Liberal chant would be

"Better things aren't passable! nerd "

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone please break his hands and fingers so he can't type any more?! Pleeeeease

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if he has vocal cords he can use speech-to-text

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We could enlist a vet whose done the vocal cord cutting procedure on dogs.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

Then after he does it, we can wrap them both up in a carpet and throw them off a bridge

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love throwing percentages around on "serious" analysis like they mean something. How do you get 5% less progressive on police abolition? Should we do 10% less war crimes?

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

maybe we could grind 12.372% less homeless into protein powder

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the democrats need to set their sights on locking down the mermaid vote.

I think it's the next logical step seeing as how they've spent decades campaigning to imaginary voters now.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

With ocean levels rising, it's a hot new demographic!

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Yeah, something normal, like 5-10% less progressive. It's worked great* the last 20-10 times!" very-intelligent

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Compounding interest on 5-10% less progressive year after year is quite an investment that pays dividends of suffering and death! scared-fash

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

using twitter will have you saying things like "weird" and "normal" about politics, a hobby only slightly below zoophilia on the normalcy scale.

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[–] YourFavoriteFed@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Has anyone ever tried that before? Just lying and saying they're super racist/nazi, get elected in a landslide by the masses who love nazi shit, and then pass a bunch of progressive shit behind people's backs as they shower the sheeple with empty platitudes?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

no, but they do the inverse all the time. if anything that's the default tactic for "progressives."

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[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Cultural dengism with American characteristics. So crazy it just might work.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes and the progressive positions which should be relaxed are those pertaining to civil rights protections that at the moment prevent the state from summarily executing Mr Yglesias.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

weird

panicky

normal

ok boomer. grillman

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How is this guy real?

He is like some AI bad take machine

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

How the fuck do you quantify being 5-10% more right wing?

Shift the big government dial labelled "left - right" from already leaning right to 3 degrees further right?

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

ah yes, if we merely concede 5-10% of our territory to our opponents, they will look favorably upon us and compromise with us, rather than taking advantage of our weakness

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