Crazy how Spacey’s career abruptly ended, even though he was acquitted and/or found not guilty. Yet Trump, who has lost his civil sexual assault cases, is the fucking president of the United States and no one will do anything about it.
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And that’s basically it!
You forgot about being a 34x convicted but not sentenced criminal.
He was sentenced, it's just that his sentence was ... nothing. Which of course is a totally appropriate penalty for a fucking felony.
Spacey would still be making movies now if he’d just preyed on vulnerable women instead.
Dustin Hoffman, Ben Affleck, Morgan Freeman, Ryan Seacrest all have multiple SA allegations that they were able to play down and keep working, but those were all from women.
Most homophobia stems from the fear of male rape, so the usual meninist/MRA crowd who scrambled to defend “innocent until proven guilty” for Russell Brand (3 upcoming producer credits) are nowhere to be seen when it’s Spacey.
(for clarity, this is not a defense of Spacey, it’s an attack on hypocrisy)
The only way I can lose is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.
-- Edwin Edwards
Jesus Christ is that a real quote? It's accurate AF. Like, uncomfortably accurate.
How can you mention these people and forget Jared Leto? He's an actual cult leader.
yes, it is revealing how flexible the conservative soul is when it comes to corruption and perversion, while simultaneously being inflexible about things like compassion, charity and kindness.
The only true thing Trump has ever uttered was that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose support.
That is so not true. He also said "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."
Worth noting Spacey is currently on Epstein flight logs that have been released
Epstein's private plane took President Bill Clinton, actor Kevin Spacey, and comedian Chris Tucker to Africa
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-traveled-with-bill-clinton-kevin-spacey-2019-7
Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey and Dustin Hoffman walk into an Irish pub.
The bartender sighs, "Oh no, not Yewtree again..."
We don't need your help here..
Right? Like we get it, you're not in the files, and you want to remind everyone you were acquitted and found not civilly liable of your own sexual misconduct. But "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent," and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.
But “not guilty” is not the same as “innocent,” and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.
Basically the courts don't matter and all that matters is public opinion? And this is where you launch into a "the courts are corrupt" and "the rich never get punished" or some similar BS?
I mean are they wrong that the rich never really get punished? Trump and those 34 convictions that resulted in nothing already forgotten? Diddy getting a not guilty for the severe charges also forgotten?
I mean, it's the one time he's guaranteed to not be named in a sexual assault case, so why not?
"My computer recently crashed and I've lost all my friends' email addresses."
I think it's more like Epstein specialized in girls
probably becauses hes into male minors. and not female like most of the pedophiles/ephebophiles out there.
Not googling that word
It's just a synonym for libertarian.
That's so funny
It's a distinction some make, where pedophiles go for the kid kids, like prepubescent, where ephebophiles want the ones who have at least started puberty but are still kids.
Hold my beer, it's even more complicated
- Infantophiles go for 0-5 (up until developed consciousness)
- Pedophiles ~6-beginning of puberty
- Hebephiles - going through puberty
- Ephebophiles - after puberty but before adulthood
- Teleiophiles - 18-late 30s
- Mesophiles - 40s-60s
- Gerontophiles - 70+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia
Don't ask me why I know, I just like getting to the grit of things.
I'm going to accuse some people of being Teleiophiles and Mesophiles.
I'm wondering what kind of international incident this will cause. Who else is in there, it can't be just Americans?
Anything to ratchet up the pressure on that orange toddler is welcomed.
I know and agree with everyone’s anger toward Spacey. But, and hear me out here, if it means releasing the Epstein files, then so be it. Let the man speak. Once that’s done, he can go fuck right off again.
Somehow I don't think he'll be the make-or-break that determines whether the files get released.
my personal objection.
releasing the Epstein's files will include people he wanted to target but never got anywhere.
however, it would be very clear that those people are innocent, and they're will be people in the files that were clearly diddling children.
Either the files should be released in full and the only consequence for people who casually met Epstein and never interacted with him will be some conspiracy nuts harassing them. or at worse censor the list for those names.
Also, just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients.
"just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients."
Exactly, this focus on a "list" drives me crazy. If detectives investigating a murder don't find a piece of paper with the victim's name on it in the killer's possession, they don't throw their hands up and say, damn he got away with it.
Epstein's entire business model revolved around having receipts on his clients, that's how he stayed out of prison for decades, and it's why they are covering it up now. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a supressed criminal investigation.
Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted
He saw Stephen King get called a nonce for claiming the list didn't exist and saw an opportunity.
Oh, King's for sure on that list if he's saying that.
He proudly proclaims that he didnt need any help to prey upon his victims
In 2017, Spacey faced several allegations of sexual assault and sexual harassment. On October 29, 2017, actor Anthony Rapp was the first to accuse Spacey of sexual misconduct.In the following weeks, other accusers came forward, including actor Roberto Cavazos, filmmaker Tony Montana, Richard Dreyfuss's son Harry, and at least eight people who worked on House of Cards.
In the wake of these claims, Netflix cut ties with Spacey, shelving his biopic of Gore Vidal and removing him from the last season of House of Cards. His completed role as J. Paul Getty in Ridley Scott's film All the Money in the World (2017) was reshot with Christopher Plummer. Spacey has denied the accusations and was found not liable in a 2022 civil lawsuit filed by Rapp in New York. In a separate criminal case in London, he was acquitted by a jury of sexual assault charges in 2023.
For the people who know he did smth, but didn't know what. I had always assumed bit was paedophilia or smth. Gay sexual misconduct was not gonna be smth I would've guessed, didnt even know he was gay. But then again I know nothing of any celebrity's life.
With the number of people from just the house of cards set making the allegations, it feels highly likely he's guilty.
Those allegations began after Anthony Rapp alleged that Spacey, while appearing intoxicated, made a sexual advance toward him at a party in 1986, when Rapp was 14 (so it was pedophilia after all) and Spacey was 27. Rapp had also shared this story in a 2001 interview with The Advocate, but Spacey's name was redacted from publication to avoid legal disputes and public outing.
Spacey stated on Twitter that he did not remember the encounter, but that he owed Rapp "the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior" if he had behaved as asserted.
On September 9, 2020, Rapp sued Spacey for sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress under the Child Victims Act.
In the subsequent federal civil court proceeding, a jury found that Spacey did not molest Rapp and was found not liable on all counts, with Rapp subsequently ordered by the court to pay Spacey $39,089 for the costs of litigation.
Fifteen others then came forward alleging similar abuse, including Boston anchorwoman Heather Unruh, who alleged that Spacey sexually assaulted her son; filmmaker Tony Montana; actor Roberto Cavazos; Richard Dreyfuss' son Harry; and eight people who worked on House of Cards. The Guardian was contacted by "a number of people" who alleged that Spacey "groped and behaved in an inappropriate way with young men" as artistic director of The Old Vic theatre.
Jesus fucking Christ this is bleak.
Soup be thickening.