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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 118 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine being, like, 75 and suddenly having to learn philosophy of science

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see how Johnson and Johnson haven't sued the absolute shit out of him at this point.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That’s probably why he’s saying it, lol. I doubt J&J wants a stupid, expensive lawsuit with the government over this, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been in private talks to get them to walk it back.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

A drawn out lawsuit world probably result in generations of magas not using Tylenol out of spite.

No way they don't sue, it's just a matter of time. I'm sure their sales have plummeted from all the idiots believing anything they read.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a shakedown warning to pharma companies: "we will upset your revenue stream unless you bribe us not to"

That's the only reason I can see a U-turn happening here

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It can only good happen!

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 87 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"The causative association . . . between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

Was what he actually said, the headline is click bait.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

that not clickbait, it's called paraphrasing

can't put the entire paraghaph as a headline

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Its deliberately obfuscating a critical part of the quote in order to get more attention.

Its clickbait.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what part?

how would you have worded the headline to avoid what you call clickbait?

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Evidence linking Tylenol and autism not definitive "but very suggestive", says health secretary Kennedy.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Suggestive evidence is information that hints at a particular conclusion but is not conclusive on its own."

So in short, is there no conclusive evidence linking it to autism?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

So in short, is there no conclusive evidence linking it to autism?

Kennedy hears that there is no conclusive evidence linking tylenol to autism yet assumes the causal relationship exists. (It just hasn't been proven yet.)

Any rational person hearing that there is no conclusive evidence linking tylenol to autism assumes the causal relationship does not exist. (But acknowledges that the causal relationship has not been disproven.)

A better summary would be "Kennedy acknowledges his claims about Tylenol are not supported by evidence."

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[–] stray@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I think a more accurate paraphrasing would be that he said studies suggest Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

A respected academic telling me that something or another in data is "suggestive" means something. From a rando pseudoscientist working from the armchair, it means fuck all.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

One Texas AG lawsuit, and they panic and rescind because they know their bullshit won't hold up on court. Texas for the win????? 🤦‍♂️

[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆ The stars at night are big and bright clap clap clap clap

[–] darvocet 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a native Texan i want to make clear that there is never a situation where someone yells out "the stars at night are big and bright" and everyone claps.

That being said if it were to happen, absolutely everyone would clap.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No man, I saw it on a documentary about the Alamo.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

The great American explorer Peewee Herman.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wonder how this will stack up in Texas's lawsuit. Not that American law matters anymore....

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Too late, he did the damage he wanted to do and the cult isn't going to stop blaming Tylenol.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey! They could take some... oh, no...

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's cool. I'll just give them paracetamol. They won't know

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[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

But you said you knew it did......How could you slander/libel this brave american company.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesnt matter really, evidence is really irrelevant to the entire thing at this point. The people tuning in do not understand what autism is to begin with, let alone what evidence would even mean in this context.

I won't be surprised when studies show in a few years a large drop in Tylenol use during pregnancy (probably overall use too), and the diagnosis rate of autism continues the overall increasing trend (as we become better at diagnosing it).

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What, they care for proof now?

Edit: nope, clickbait. Block that shit.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's pretty much worthless to read media and news that isn't by one of the very few remaining journalistic organizations, and even Reuters and AP have had issues.

I weep for the passing of truth and reality. I kinda thought we would go in the opposite direction a quarter century into the 21st millennium, but here we are. Reckon I'll go down to the local alchemist and pick up some leeches and mercury to keep the miasma at bay and balance the ol' humors.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

....then why did you say it did?

Fucking reckless and dangerous.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Brain worm and swimming in feces, remember?

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My guess is that worm just thinks Tylenol makes brain taste bitter.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 4 points 2 days ago

He has temporarily wrestled control of his brain back from the worm.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

there is not ~~sufficient~~ any proof at all

FTFY

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago
[–] Bonus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

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[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tylenol told him they'd sue his pants off is likely what happened here. It's only a US brand of a more generic aspirin after all. So which is it, the generic drug, or the brand name that causes autism? Surely can't be both in this case.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Tylenol is paracetamol, aka acetaminophen, not aspirin.

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