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The Hamas attack that left Israeli-Canadian Netta Epstein dead was chronicled in his phone messages with his mother.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago

Wow, what an honourable way to go if you must. He traded unlikely survival with certain death and saved his girlfriend in the process. I feel bad for the mom, but still I don't know how many would be as brave as Netta to do that, even if you had adrenaline going.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What a bad ass. "Oh shit we're all going to die!" "ME FIRST!"

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What a hero. He gave up almost any chance of survival to reduce shrapnel spread, which saved his girlfriend's life...

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

While not diminishing the heroism, laying atop a grenade might be among the least bad ways to go during the attack. One instant you're there pumped on hero juice, the next instant you're gone. No leftover brain activity to experience who knows what while actively dying.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When it happens to you, please let us know what your reaction was and who survived.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I found myself in such situation I'd have zero balls or awareness to jump on a nade.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen enough Ukranian drone drop videos with grenades landing on Russians to know that being on the receiving end is absolutely not immediately lights out.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] luky 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago
[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 13 points 2 years ago

Those text messages.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 years ago

Good man, protecting those around him.🫑

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago

Senseless violence

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

PSA: Don't throw yourself on grenades. Lay flat on the ground with your legs facing the grenade.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Genuinely asking, how is that any better? And really, if you were trying to stop fragmentation from killing other people in a room wouldn't your actual core do a better job of that then your legs?

[–] SandroHc@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Different advice for different goals. If your goal is to survive, you want your vitals to be protected. If you want others to survive, might as well use your muscle and fat to absorb some of the kinetic energy.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 8 points 2 years ago

The idea is obviously for everyone to lay flat with their legs facing the grenade, not just one person. If there's just you and one other person just force them to the ground. If you live in a dangerous place explain it to them beforehand and maybe even practice.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

that then your legs

Well, not one THEN the other. It's a single blast and it's too quick to change positions.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good way to shred your legs and genitals

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Better than your chest and head.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Very tragic way to go out.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Full disclosure: the man is israel-born and was an IDF member.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why does that matter? It’s a heroic act regardless of which side they’re on.

Edit: haha you blocked me right after responding. Unsurprising from someone only able to see the world in binary.

[–] twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Taking part in a genocide does taint it a tad