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[–] andrew@mastodon.furrow.me 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

@cantankerous_cashew add to the list of heinous stuff the #epsteinclass is using this window of opportunity to get away with. Imagine pretending to be a force for modernization and good, get grants from cities to build infra, then sell said infra to the same scumbag ISPs who already got grants from city/state/local & federal to create monopolies in the first place...truly, fuck you #google. Fuck you.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

There are essentially only three major cable providers in the United States. They have blocked Google Fiber at nearly every turn. I have been unable to get Google Fiber at any address I’ve lived at since it launched.

It is oddly entertaining to watch monopolies that the federal government failed to break up, largely due to their own lobbying, fight each other in an attempt to prevent the others from becoming even more monopolized.

[–] sevan@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always thought this was their plan. I used to work for one of the cable companies when this came out. Most of us in the Operations space saw this as an obvious play to bully the big telecom companies to increase speeds and latency to benefit the tech companies. However the execs freaked out and treated them as an existential threat, which is exactly what Google wanted.

They never had any desire to run an Internet company, it costs a ton of money to build out. So they cherry picked relatively dense middle and upper class neighborhoods that would have a good return in a way that the regulated telecoms would not be allowed to. They normalized high speed internet nationally and now they can sell off the business to recoup some of the cost.

I'm not a fan of Google, but as an internet customer, I appreciate the result of this strategy.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Makes sense but since ISPs are essentially a monopoly in fiber, they get to charge whatever they want, despite the fact that I know AT&T's break even cost for 5G fiber is $10 a month per line.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah some (formerly) local fiber companies started out as a way to get decent Internet in places the big ISPs wouldn't touch. Some are still around, but many are getting sold off to the big telcos

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When do no evil finally turns to do evil always. I think this leaves the Woz as the only remnant of when tech was the good guy.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Linus: Am I a joke to you?

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if Linus and woz would be friends

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Probably more of a "Highlander" scenario

[–] Peekashoe@lemmy.wtf 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good point. Though even when Woz was involved, he was overruled by one of the model tech narcissists, Jobs. But at least he was in the room.

I think we've just created an unregulated system that almost perfectly incentivizes and reinforces evil, so eventually evil is what we get.

Free market capitalism can only serve good with a tight collar and very short leash held by healthy democracy. Maybe it was a bad idea spending 40 years removing and making all leashes and collars for capitalism illegal, and handing the collar and leash to capitalism to put on democracy. But what do I know.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Checks and balances?

Do you mean check marks on my balance sheet for each billion dollar row?

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago

I always thought the 1Gbps was awesome and perhaps a good incentive for other companies to upgrade (probably more the reason since they're Google and their ad bucks). Recently saw a reason to switch for 2.5, did it then was told by the installer they don't even have cable that does it. Mean. I did it myself and my stream downloads are quite fast, but it'd have been nice if my provider mentioned that in the first place so I knew who had to run the wires. It was only through some holes, behind the sink / dishwasher so not awful but you td have been nice to understand 2.5 was higher than their techs supported.Also needed a switch / router upgrade. Which was actually quite fun to do and minimal cost now can get a mesh wifi going.

Still if your techs can't provide what is needed in cables for your upper end least tell the customer first.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

This will enshittivize profit over quality of service.

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So all of the easement agreements got pushed through by google, and are being taken over by entities who wouldn't have been able to get those easements due to commujity distrust of their company

I'd sue to have the easement revoked as a community, and for punitive damages hefty enough as a punch to Google's nose to prevent that type of bad behavior from happening in the future

Not chump change, not cost of operations. Actual punitive damages enough to cut out any profits from the transaction and then some

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Meanwhile SpaceX spends billions launching thousands of satellites into space and wreck the environment just so people can doomscroll their slop. When all we need are governments building some basic infrastructure like fiber internet for a fraction of the money.

[–] Hope@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My prior city ran a survey on whether they should build out fiber to the homes around the city, since they were building their own fiber infrastructure anyway. Despite the city saying it would be cheaper and faster than the existing 0 or 1 options people had, my fellow residents cried communism and the city government scrapped the idea. Infuriating.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Americans are too stupid to vote in a lot of cases. why even hold a vote on something like this at all? just get it done. why bother asking permission from people who will answer without understanding the question

[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Look up easement abuse in the US on YouTube, Lehto's Law or Institute for Justice

From rail, to cable providers, to city municipalities, easements in the US have been utilized maliciously to destroy and seize peoples properties

Why bother asking permission?

In the States, enough people have proven uncivilized enough and willing enough to face the consequences that come with utilizing tools easily and cheaply available at their disposal so that trespassers and even politicians think twice before sending people to mess with other people's land without asking permission

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

"We're too stupid to have better things," cried Society.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

"ran a survey", this was the only clue I needed to realize that they never planned to do it in the first place. Surveys are so easy to manipulate that if someone tells you they made a decision based on a survey, that you can immediately assume that what they are really saying is that they made a decision that they knew would be unpopular, obviously biased, or otherwise disastrous, but they wanted to blame the decision on "other people".

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Australia almost did this right with the National Broadband Network.

Unfortunately, it was then sabotaged by the government after an election changed the majority party.

It seems to be back on track after wasting an extraordinary amount of time and money by installing copper lines, just to completely replace them with the fiber lines that were in the original plan.

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[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 215 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add another to the graveyard

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

299 entries... That makes it 300! Congratulations!!

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything Google touches turns to ash.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't have any experience with Google Fiber, but I was bummed when Google Domains got sold off, I forgot to whom. Google Domains was so simple. No nonsense.

[–] dan@upvote.au 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They sold Google Domains to Squarespace.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

which just to happens to be today's sponsor!

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 1 day ago

I'll be sure to subscribe while connected to my NordVPN account.

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah fuck everything Google.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ugh.

The service has been quite good for ten years.

Guess it was good while it lasted.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago (8 children)

They just finished laying Google Fiber in my neighborhood and I was looking at switching. Guess I’m holding on that.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another one for the Google graveyard.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Locally community owned nonprofit isps are the future. Of you live in an area with that, switch over now. Isps in the next year or so are going to sign Ai data scrapping contracts and allow federal censorship like China's great firewall. You heard it here first.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I gladly pay more for my local fiber connection than it would cost for Xfinity. Fuck these greedy corporate shithead monopolies with their shitty service. I’ll pay whatever it costs to support a local company instead.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm shocked. Totally shocked.

Private equity means rising *prices and dropping quality until it's useless at which point it will be sold off piece by piece. Consumers aren't part of the process except as wallets.

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