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"Not much is known about Generalleutnant Fritz von Kraut. We know he was a brave and competent military commander, but we don't know about his political beliefs or his attitude towards national socialism."

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[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My parents watched one recently which, to my incredible surprise, interviewed a living female Red Army sniper. She was the only Soviet representation, meanwhile they had on two or three guys from the German army talking about how bad things got at Stalingrad while they were attacking and blockading it.

Unlike the Germans, the Soviet woman wore all of her medals for the interview rat-salute-2

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike the Germans, the Soviet woman wore all of her medals for the interview

:Zhukov-Literally-Shining:

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Top Comment:

"Sigma rule Zhukov: Reject Hitler from Stalingrad like art academy in Austria."

lenin-laugh

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The white devils can't help themselves, can't they

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was some German historian talking head saying it too stalin-stressed

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

'Fritz "Burner of Polish Villages/the Devil of Minsk/Drinker of Russian Maidens Blood" von Kraut is not known to have directly committed any warcrimes'

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Absolutely no idea what the political affiliations of Obersturmfuhrer Heinz "Der Jewslaughterer MegaNazi Prime" Hitler 2k could have been

[–] badbadcomrade@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

But did you see how uncivil those Slavs were being about their impending extermination? They didn't even get protest permits!

[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Von Kraut's Unit, the 2nd Belarusian Town Destroyers allegedly burned down ten towns in Belarus"

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The gentlemen soldier skillfully trapped the peasants via maneuver warfare, or Bervegunskrieg as it’s known among his noble Prussian military brethren.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Libs when talking about socialists and socialist projects during the cold war : "They were bad and evil and the people behind them just wanted to be bad and evil, because that's how bad and evil communists are."

Libs when talking about literal Nazis (or US war criminals) : Flattery and white washing, thinly veiled as "nuance."

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Rommel was a respectable guy even if he was playing for the opposite team" - a thing I've seen liberals seriously say more than once (except for the opposite team part, that was me doing some comedic hyperbole)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all part of the "Clean Wehrmacht" propaganda campaign to make incorporating the NAzis in to NATO palatable and keep anyone from asking what the Wehrmacht was doing in Eastern Europe.

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate that clean Wehrmacht feels quaint now that we have clean SS from kkkanada

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’ll have clean Hitler soon enough

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

lmao they always are way too lenient with the Nazis while using every opportunity to disparage the Soviets.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Liberals also fall over themselves to say Robert E. Lee was brave and honorable and also a very handsome boy

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's another insidious bit of the propaganda regarding Lee and a narrative that he fought for The State of Virginia rather than the confederacy which is almost-but-not-quite saying he did it out of concern for states rights.

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

States rights to do what, fuckers

states rights? meet states lefts! john-brown

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fritz von Kraut

No

I refuse to believe this is a real man

I believe wholeheartedly that he was a Nazi, but one ala Colonel Klink

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could not remember what they said the guy's name was and substituted a joke that I hoped was obvious

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am high as shit at the moment, so forgive me and my chicanery

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Colonel Evil von Machinegunhands

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

general Pretzelwaffen der Schnitzelstoffen

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Well, I have a name for my line of German chain restaurants now

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

He clearly got out of it by shouting "I know nothing! I see nothing!" when being on trial in The Hague.

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] badbadcomrade@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

But what did he believe? thonk

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really love saying "national socialism" dont they

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When you gotta pad the word count on the shitty essay you half assed the night before due date.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is more to tie socialism to the Nazis

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

That's probably the real reason

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The allies should have shot every Nazi officer they got their hands on, but I guess if they did that they would have had no one to run NATO

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Churchill had a fucking cry when Stalin suggested killing between 50~100K N*zi officers. Guess he didn't want to lose the manpower.

[–] KatsInSpace@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

A new Netflix doc i saw was basically nazi propaganda when it came to the eastern front

[–] D61@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

That sounds about reich...

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

We can take a fucking guess

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

"He had remarkable intelligence, insight, and persuasion, all the qualities to make a successful commander, but it's unclear whether he understood his own personal connection to the Nazi project."

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

History guys often say this