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Thirty minutes into the presidential debate, I’ve heard from three veteran Democratic presidential campaign officials, and all of them had the same reaction to President Biden’s performance: This is a disaster. It wasn’t just that Biden wasn’t landing a glove on Donald Trump on the economy, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Covid, taxes, temperament or anything else that was coming up in the questioning. It was Biden’s voice (low and weak) and facial expression (frozen, mouth open, few smirks) with answers that were rambling or vague or ended in confusion. He gave remarks about health care and abortion that didn’t make a strong point, giving Trump a chance to say lines like, “I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said, either.” One of the Democrats said Biden looked scared. Another said it was an “emperor has no clothes” performance so far. The third said of the performance overall, “Don’t ask.” Trump lied repeatedly during the debate about the pandemic, immigration and Roe v. Wade, but Biden didn’t hold him accountable for those lies in a memorable way. At times, Trump attacked Biden, but the president didn’t fight back. Frank Luntz, a veteran focus group moderator who was holding a live focus group during the debate, wrote of their reactions so far: “The group is so bothered by Biden’s voice and appearance. But they’re getting madder and madder with Trump’s personal attacks.” “If Trump talks less,” Luntz said, “he wins. If Biden doesn’t stop talking, he loses.”

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All the Democrat fucks who thought Biden was going to save them, who went all in on genocide because Biden was going to save them, who have been screaming at everyone and everyone that Biden is going to save them, this was their god. This was their champion. Fucking pathetic.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Been thinking the same as I watch everyone around me having aneurysms about the debate

This was your god? This was Dark Brandon the Chosen One? This is the best you got?

Tonight we saw their God metaphorically bleed from his eye once again.

[–] JayTwo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Dark Brandon was originally funny because the actual Biden was completely spineless compared to the reactionary strawman of him.
The entire joke was that he's a human bowl of oatmeal and therefore completely unable to even approach this type of behavior, unless it was something about Anita Hill or school busing.
Then the dems appropriated it and ruined it.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

we saw his brain melting out of his fucking ears 4 years ago and it's been 4 years of gaslighting from maybe-later-kiddo

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

First few pages of "reader picks"

Looks like the libs just realized they're cooked lol

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's incredible that this fucking disaster is what it took for them to finally realize their emperor has been running around with his dick out babbling for years.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

these people pretend they know anything about whats going on, thats why. libs know either a tiny bit or absolutely nothing about whats going on in any way.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And none of them will have even a moment's reflection or consider that maybe they should start listening to the people who've been warning them about this the whole time.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they're still going to blame us when they eat shit.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dems' shitty candidate loses? They blame us and say we're just sabotaging them, so they don't need to listen to us.

Dems' shitty candidate wins? They say it's proof that triangulation works and that they don't need to listen to us.

Can't fucking win with these people.

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

"If Biden is a patriot..." Christ Almighty, imagine being so cooked that you think the elites think in the same stupid way that they have convinced the plebs to.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats after orange man debate yamagami

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If we've lost the Times commenters, we've lost lanyard America.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this shit was so bad it made me feel like an impostor for teaching English while being completely unable to understand what the fuck either of them were saying

but then I saw that all the native speakers in the chat were equally confused, so I think I'm good for now

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Trump: "I really dont know what he said - and i dont think he does either" chefs-kiss

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I didn’t watch it out of self-care, anyone with more stomach want to give some of the sundowning highlights?

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They had a rule where each person were given 3-4 minutes to answer question while the other person had their mic off to prevent interruption. This prove to be disastrous, Biden cannot talk coherently for 3-4 minutes straight without falling apart, meander, and losing his train of thought. Biden often finished early, then the mods said "Mr. Biden you have 2 minutes left", started to freestyle disastrously and then time's out and got cut off. Trump deflected every question the moderators asked, and talk about something else entirely, lies through his teeth, but he is coherent within the 3-4 minutes time, finished on-time, mods don't have the balls to ask follow up question, and changed the topic. It's a disasterclass both ways for the planet, but horserace wise it is also a calamity for Dems.

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

It was 2 minutes. With 1 minute rebuttals. Not trying to nerd on you but just pointing out it was even worse than that.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Trump didn't bother answering the question and just went off topic lol

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

You ever visit a dying grandparent who keeps miataking you for other relatives who are all 30 years older than you?

[–] buh@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

for every question Trump instead deflected with some conservative talking point, frequently the "border crisis" even though biden is just as racist as trump was when it came to immigration. biden would rebut with a vague, breathless "actually everything is great and americans are happy, mack" even though everything is horrible and americans aren't happy. in the beginning they fought over who is more zionist. at some point in the middle the moderators asked directly about what each would do about drug addiction; trump said he bought "certain dogs" to sniff out drugs, biden said we have machine for that, jack.

[–] Roonerino@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Hopefully someone cuts a highlight reel together soon because there's some good ones. Especially both of them spending like a minute arguing about who's better at golf. Lots of (unintelligible).

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

The only positive thing was every frame of Biden is a new facial expression.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump wants to kill millions of immigrants, Biden couldn't string together a sentence and they each said they could out golf each other

[–] Nimue@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they each said they could out golf each other

I'm glad they had the courage to tackle such an important issue.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

god, can you even have a president who isn't the best golfer? not in my conntry

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

The idea

Number 1

[–] NoSuchAgency@reddthat.com 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yep, and Democrats are already trying to make excuses for him. Now they're saying Biden has a cold, lol

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Fucker probably got his lungs fried by Covid. Oh wait Covid is over can't be that.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Biden actually has tons of debate competence, it just goes to another school, in Canada,

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honest to goodness, I can believe he is sick and that probably had a serious impact on his performance, but I don't think it matters. Nobody came away saying "oh, I guess Biden had a cold", everyone came away with the distinct impression that we'd be better off having ChatGPT be the democratic candidate.

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[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hilary Clinton's agents have struck. They swapped out the potion of focus and clarity, with a drowsy and befuddled potion.

It's her time everyone. hillgasm

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man who everyone that isn't a Dem shill know was sundowning 4-5 years ago had a debate performance of a man who is well into his sundowning erasurprised-pika

I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

this is what capitalism is keeping from us

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

maybe-later-honey Wow, look at these Russo-Chinese trollbots, making a big deal about Biden's stutter.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Russo-Sino*

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shoulda done it early to mid day. The geezer the Democrats have hung their last hope on is fucking sundowning.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Right? All the fucking Democrat deadender fascist scum who have been screaming that we have to vote for Biden thought this walking corpse was going to save them.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Too bad that nothing could have warned them of this, just a sudden mental decline over the last couple of days out of nowhere.

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder: he refused to take drug test before debate. Even the wonders of modern medicine could not make him appear as an alive human

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[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

At least we should get some good confused biden emojis out of it

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Has the democratic party been infiltrated by tankie russian bots? Where is this defeatism coming from? The chinese?

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago
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