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Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, ripped Donald Trump for his military attack against Iran on Saturday, saying the move is "absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment."

Ocasio-Cortez ripped the president's action on X, formerly Twitter, and wrote, "The President's disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment."

On the other hand, Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, came to Trump's side and wrote on X, "As I've long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities. I'm grateful for and salute the finest military in the world."

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[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

America and Israel are terrorist nations

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Shut the fuck up, Fetterman.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool. So since she's a member of the house of representatives, she must have initiated proceedings for impeachment, right?

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its not a good idea to introduce something in Congress if you dont have support

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on why? Genuine question. It seems like if the alternative is also not getting what you want, then there isn't much to lose?

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

im not an expert on congressional procedure but considering that the Republicans have a majority in both the house and Senate, an impeachment vote would always fail because they would never go against trump. also, its not a great look if a representative is always introducing bills that are rejected by a vote, die in committee, or are never even put on the schedule. just think about how Bernie Sanders was dragged for not introducing enough legislation that actually passed into law during his long career.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that matters at all... Bernie has had a very long career and his constituents never rebuked him for failing to pass legislation

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

im talking about his presidential runs

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

fuck Newsweek.

[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

They tried this before multiple times and it achieved nothing, you'd think they'd come up with a new idea.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 89 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Mussolini got dragged through the streets and him and his gf’s lifeless corpses were hung upside down for all of Rome to see.

Weird fact. Not sure why I’m thinking of it

There is an old quote -

"The plight of the oppressed ends with the oppressor. Mussolini found this to be true, as will others."

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now THAT’s a PRIME NUMBER

Thank you for your attention to this matter

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[–] J92@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It was Milan. Though I'm sure the people of Rome were more than welcome to go see his bespatted husk.

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Does it even matter, American government and business is soaked deep in soggy dogshit.

It's not getting fixed by political discourse. If you're trying to do it that way than you aren't even playing the same game as the entity leading right now. Understand the game like mob boss and gang leaders. These politicians appear naive... We don't live in that world anymore and probably haven't for the past 30 years. It's the same feeling as seeing mainstream big religious people living in a dream world.

That's not a call for action or anything... It's just realistic observation.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

Only a rag would quote Fetterman and credit him as a Democrat. He doesn't act or believe what he did when he was elected as a Democrat, his perspective is irrelevant.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 195 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Fetterman that piece of shit.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Gotta be a some kind of link between brain damage and rabid conservatism.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is. You gotta be brain damaged to be conservative.

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[–] msprout@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I hope he gets out of politics and gets treatment. I grew up in Pittsburgh and just wince every time I see what he has become. He used to come out to parties in my social group! He was always a spoiled rich kid but this post-stroke John is something else.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If literally anyone thinks "it's okay that Trump bombed Iran, it was the right move"...

Then couldnt you just argue that "if it was such an obviously right move, wouldn't it have been easy to get congress to approve it?"

It's illogical to on one hand say it was the right thing to do, while ignoring the fact he did it without approval.

If it was so right, then approval would've been easy to get...?

[–] LadyButterfly@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Trump fans would say he couldn't ask because they'd unfairly block him. And he's a decisive dynamic man who took initiative. Or something

[–] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Keep screaming impeachment when clearly that doesn't work.....he belongs in jail ya know for being a 34 count felon rapist seditionous traitor.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

clearly grounds for impeachment

...add it to the pile, I guess.

But considering that impeachment is a legal process and that the current administration has zero respect for or inclination to follow the law, it's not like it'll accomplish shit. Dude needs to be deposed by those who have sworn to defend the constitution from domestic threats (the military) not run through some formal process.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Impeachment is specifically NOT a legal process but a political one. Trump's second impeachment acquittal was based on impeachment being a political process, and that the criminal justice system was the correct venue for J6.

That's also why the Justice department policy on not charging a sitting president and the SCOTUS ruling that Presidents are immune from prosecution are bullshit.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I want him actually removed from office. He was already impeached. Twice! It didn't do anything.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To get him removed from office, you have to first get the House to vote (50%) to Impeach him. That is actually doable. But then the Senate has to hold a trial and somehow get 67 senators to vote to convict him. That would take every Dem and Independent and something like 20 Republicans to vote to convict. I agree with you, but I don't see that happening.

The only other way is by using the 25th Amendment which says, in part:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Vance and all of Trump's appointed toadies would have to send a letter to the House and Senate saying Trump in not capable of being president. And even if, by some miracle that happened, the next step is for Congress to hold votes in both the House and the Senate needing two-thirds of both houses to declare that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Even if they somehow pulled that off in the House, it would still take 18 or 20 Republican senators to cross over and vote him out.

I just don't see any legislative way out of this. The Republicans in the House and Senate are simply not going to let it happen. They have too much power and no morals.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter they should still introduce the bill

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Every day the Criminal in Chief commits impeachable crimes. Every. Day.

This is just the latest. But Congress is currently packed with illegitimate, undemocratically placed criminal cronies who face no accountability while shielding their criminal collaborators from accountability. So here we are.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

What are they gonna do about it? Lawsuit? Lmao

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

he’s been impeached. what’s another one gonna do except distract everyone while he continues to war?

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the senate actually has balls, they can remove him from office. Impeachment doesnt inherently carry consequences. The senate determines consequence

The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, "eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to... no punishment."

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

The older I get, the more I feel like the Senate is essentially the means through which corporations and the capital class defeat any popular movement. Our Constitution was written mostly by drunk, privileged, rich kids. I think sometimes you can really smell the disdain for lower classes in the way everything is built.

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