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[โ€“] sircac@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

"...your Country" retard

[โ€“] redlemace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now i'm scarred ..... No, wait! I'm not! Raise them 40% tariffs just for sending this letter. Not in August, not in September but now. Today. It's the only thing the bully understands.

[โ€“] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Fuck it. Send a letter back saying that you're not going to have this pointless dick waving contest. You're stopping all trade with the US and nationalizing US commercial and military assets in the EU. Effective tomorrow unless the US come back to the negotiating table with a zero tariff policy already signed and ready to go.

[โ€“] Bwaz@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't there something about the Epstein files we were all thinking about just before Trump spouted this new distraction?

Trust me, we're all still thinking about it. This is a failed attempt to deflect

[โ€“] Evrala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Right when I decide to buy a Fairphone 6, welp, guess I'm keeping my current phone till the the tariffs drop.

[โ€“] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 104 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You will never be disappointed with The United States of America.

Is the whole thing satire?

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[โ€“] mat@linux.community 106 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Ah yes my favorite Country, the European Union.

[โ€“] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This "tariff" is just a distraction from the Epstein files scandal, nothing more. It's just noise, not news.

Trump is a eurofederalist icon now I guess ๐Ÿ’…

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[โ€“] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OK, what shares is he and his folks buying... We should do the same. His Black mail worked last time, should work again!

[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am amazed thtavit keeps working every time. At some point, the market will stop reacting to the taco blackmails

[โ€“] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

Because our politicians are corporation whores too. Or a corporation pimp going politician.

Marie Antoinette Merz is a great example... I quote: If people do not have enough money when retired, they should buy shares...

[โ€“] elvith@feddit.org 87 points 3 days ago (10 children)

These Tariffs may be modified, upward or downward, depending on our relationship with your Country.

First, what the fuck is that random capitalization?

Second, so your giving us in writing, that these tariffs ~~may~~ will be modified at will if you feel so.

Third, which country are you talking about? Europe is a continent. EU is a union of independent countries/nations.

First, what the fuck is that random capitalization?

Yes, heโ€™s a demented rapist.

Second, so your giving usย in writing, that these tariffsย ~~may~~ย will be modified at will if you feel so.

Yes, heโ€™s a demented rapist.

Third, which country are you talking about? Europe is a continent. EU is a union of independent countries/nations.

Yes, heโ€™s an incredibly stupid and demented rapist.

Heโ€™s the most humiliating thing we could come up with, apparently.

[โ€“] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (8 children)

At first I thought it might be a standing point for Orbรกn to point out that they want this (but the bad EU, yadda yadda), but after actually reading that garbage of a propaganda piece, I can only imagine that part is boiler-plate, and noone along the chain caught it or could be bothered with correcting it.

Trump is serving up the distmantling of most US soft powers. Like how is this not a game of chicken for us to bunch up on Ireland and tell them no more fucking around with appl and alphabet. I'd love nothing more than a third level bureaucrat tucked away in Strassbourg to calculate exactly how much societal and global harm these companies cause. We could shift that into dollars (somehow?), and make sure they pay that tax, or we start filtering their sites. I rarely believe restriction is the way to go, but nothing would really be lost here.

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[โ€“] qyron@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not great on economics but the concept of a tariff is that the entity importing something has to pay an extra levy in order to place in a market a given product.

This follows that an american importer of any trade goods of european origin will have to pay an extra thirty cents for each dollar such goods cost.

That extra cost will then be passed along the commercial chain, down to the final client.

So, prices go up for general public.

Meanwhile, nothing is stopping the country of origin of such products to divert their business to other countries, thus maintaining their normal activities.

Am I wrong or this whole thing is disastrous for the USA?

[โ€“] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Youโ€™re right in how it works, except when you say nothing is stopping a country to sell elsewhere, demand/supply/market conditions do. They are probably selling to other countries as much as they can anyway, and still sell to the US as well. So when they canโ€™t sell to the US, it wonโ€™t be easy for those companies to find other customers to take this volume. If they existed, they would have been sold to anyway.

[โ€“] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Practical example.

I know this winery that usually exports nearly 95% of their production to the US. The owner spent a few decades there and made some contacts.

Last year, they had some problem with the american market and were forced to search for other venues.

They dropped their prices, opted to sell to our national market and did pretty much the same revenue they would have done exporting.

Exporting to the US is often the thirst for easy profit. Products that sell here for cents can be sold at a premium in the US, as it is the de facto luxury hungry market. Doesn't really matter if it good; if is it expensive, it means it's good.

Portugal mostly exports food goods to the US. I think cork, some clothing and shoes and some other items make up the basket, but in way lower quantities.

I've seen cheese and wine that are considered run of the mill here sold for ten times more in the US market. Which I consider theft.

This entire situation gets uglier the deeper we dig.

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[โ€“] Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It is indeed bad for US businesses and consumers, and therefore for US economy in general, but as US market is so big and important, it's also bad for countries doing business with US, including in Europe, like, for example, German carmakers or French and Italian alcohol exporters.

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[โ€“] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'll believe it when I see it lol. Trump tariff threats just sound like whining at this point because he doesn't have the balls to actually follow through.

TACO ๐ŸŒฎ IS ๐ŸŒฎ ON ๐ŸŒฎ THE ๐ŸŒฎ MENU

[โ€“] edg@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

What is even fucking going on? It feels like a child touching random shit on their parents phone, opening apps and accidently calling and buying things. Meanwhile the rest of the world just goes wtf.

[โ€“] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They need to stop pussy-footing around with Trump.

He says 30, they need to reciprocate with 60 percent, and will back down to 20 when he cancels the 30.

Make it permanently harmful to threaten this bullshit.

[โ€“] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Suspend American IP in Europe (which is a counter-tariff measure that the EU has already approved regulations for).

Watch the TACO do his thing.

[โ€“] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago

It would be more appropriate from Europe to count all the environmental harm corpos like Cocacola get away with and simply start taxing based on the extra strain they cause to society. Give a number and just not budge. It is not hard to deal with this man.

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[โ€“] Lumidaub@feddit.org 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can't decide what's the ~~best~~ ~~worst~~ ~~best~~ most stand-out part, I keep coming back and rereading.

You will never be disappointed with The United States of America.

Are you selling us a car?

Therefore, we invite you to participate in the extraordinary Economy of the United States, the Number One Market in the World, by far.

We'd absolutely LOVE to but unfortunately we have to wash our hair. So sorry. Next time, for sure. Love you, kisses!

[โ€“] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Therefore, we invite you to participate in the extraordinary Economy of the United States, the Number One Market in the World, by far.

any updates on the price of eggs?

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[โ€“] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What a load of cringe.

And that second to last sentence is just the cherry on top of the pile of shit. Everybody is already severely disappointed.

By the way: Does anyoen know if it's even appropriate to call Von der Leyen "Her Excellency"? It sounds pretty weird to me.

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[โ€“] Redex68@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Calling Ursula her "excellency" sounds so weird to me, but apparently that's correct for foreign officials?? Would never have expected that.

[โ€“] pomfegranate@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Does he sign in fucking sharpie

[โ€“] Kissaki@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In his first presidency, he started contracting pens specifically for this. It's a big signature that is very visible when he holds up his signed letter to the cameras after signing. It's a deliberate performance, with an absurd signature for that gesture and good pictures.

Just look at this absurdity

Every. Time.

/edit: New England Firm Makes President Trumpโ€™s Pens (YouTube) 1:20, 8 years ago

[โ€“] rem26_art@fedia.io 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

honestly, if you handed him a fountain pen, i don't think he'd figure out how to use it.

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[โ€“] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Hey! That's in about two weeks!

[โ€“] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 days ago

Sure. Just like last time, right Donny?

[โ€“] ech@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Jesus fuck thats a poorly written letter. The idea behind it is worse though

[โ€“] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I'd have thrown that in the bin as spam if I didn't know better

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[โ€“] Lumidaub@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] federalreverse@feddit.org 37 points 3 days ago (3 children)

THE Capitalization IS very Random and i feel that adds To an Aura Of AUTHORITY.

[โ€“] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

TRADE is capitalized because is IMPORTANT. Imagine being President of the EU commission and having to deal with a toddler.

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