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[–] javasux@lemmy.world 111 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

always check the comments.. that's wild yo 🧙‍♀️

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He could have done it all in Katz's Deli, opened 1888. At that point, the house band could've been rocking out on Zildjian cymbals that were already 250+ years old.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Now you're telling me that Dracula keeps Kosher??

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Consuming blood is not kosher!

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well Katz's doesn't serve blood. Clearly he's there for a delicious corned beef sandwich.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually why he sucks the blood out first like that.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

the house band could’ve been rocking out on Zildjian cymbals that were already 250+ years old.

Yeah, the mehter takımı would have gone hard. What is this, Yahşi batı?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A reminder that there is an actual wild west gun slinger (sort of) in Dracula. He's the perfect stereotype of a Texan cowboy.

Also an invitation to our Dracula bookclub in !vampires@lemmy.zip.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like a vacero not like a youthful minotaur though

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pirates are still a thing, they just don’t look cool anymore.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

TBF, I think movies made old pirates look a lot cooler than they really were.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@midwest.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Amen. Ain't nothin' cool about scurvy.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Shocker: movies are inaccurate.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you look at old drawings and depictions, they do look like we know them, but they may have been embellished even then. But Hollywood didn't invent the image.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Every time I hear the Samurai, Cowboy and Pirates thing, I get upset that Pirates, Vikings and Knights didn't get a second sequel or spinoff using Cowboys and Samurai instead of Vikings and Knights.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Çowboys V. Zombie Samurai sounds awesome

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This is such a good "Well, yes, but actually no" factoid. Coke back then was a medicinal drink with cocaine as the active ingredient. Nintendo originally made playing cards. Jeans probably would have repelled Dracula in the source text since they are associated with the working poor.

[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Coke was originally among many other "tonics" pushed back in the day, but it also wasn't marketed under the name Coca-Cola while it was sold as a patent medicine tonic. It also was only was sold in that form for a few months before being made nonalcoholic and marketed as a beverage later that same year. Sales were initially poor and only picked up with aggressive advertising campaigns, which I suppose is a strategy that Coke never left behind and leads us to the world where we are today.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Still coulda drank a coke and "played nintendo".

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, but a coked out, hanafuda playing Yakuza dracula would be terrifying.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago

A gun-slinger, a samurai and a pirate fighting Dracula? What is this, the new JoJo?

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The samurai wouldn't even have a range disadvantage, since they very eagerly adopted firearms

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They also were primarily archers

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It should be "playing with Nintendo" instead of "playing Nintendo" toe be fair. To be honest, "playing with Nintendo cards" would be the most accurate, but "with Nintendo" is still accurate enough and still gives the sentence the desired effect. But no, "playing Nintendo" isn't correct. Unless they made some specific game variant and included the rules with their cards or something.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago

Guy who invited his friends over to play Nintendo, and when they arrive pulls out a deck of hanafuda cards.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He would be playing hanafuda, which is the Japanese card game that Nintendo was producing at that time. Not as funny as imagining Dracula trying to beat Ninja Gaiden or whatever.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

They probably said either the name of a specific game or "playing karuta", which is a word derived from the Portuguese word for card (carta).

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[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Samurai at this point were samurai true, but mostly just office workers at this point. Not exactly the armored warriors most people would think of as a samurai.

Where would the pirates be from? Golden age of piracy had long past in Europe afaik. Or are we just being amorphous with the fact there are always pirates?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think that's your B story right there, the fact that they're all misfits, too out of step with their times, driven by a wild yearning and a sense of romanticism. The movie itself is 0% anachronistic, but the protagonist are anachronistic in spirit.

Dracula meanwhile as a villain represents postmodernism, apathy, and the banality of evil. He's ironic, sleek, with it - a Londoner par excellence, rich and idle, but his life is a living death, figuratively as well as the whole undead thing.

The third act sees the protagonists combine their fighting styles excellently, but without avail. However, their foolhardy spirit and absurd heroism inspires Dracula to an inner awakening, and they come to an understanding in the end.

Post credits stinger: Van Helsing and Captain Ahab combine forces to take down a were-whale.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 9 points 3 weeks ago

Well that's just sounds like something someone has to make, book, series, movies, whatever im not picky

[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While the Old West goes back a few centuries, I'd say the "gunslingers era" isn't until the first Colt revolver becomes available in the mid 1830s. It took a bit of digging to find pirates that would have definitely been around late enough into the 1800s that they'd be contemporary with gunslingers and samurai (class abolished in 1870), but old school river piracy lasted, even in just the US, into at least the late 1870s, so I guess that all checks out, as long as you weren't expecting Blackbeard or anything.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Piracy pretty much always exists. As long as valuables are being transported by ship there will be people who want to capture those ships.

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[–] xylol@leminal.space 8 points 3 weeks ago

And nothing much has changed since, just more, more jeans, more coke, more blood suckers

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They might've all existed, but did they all exist in the same place at once?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Japan was opened up by American gunboats in 1853 at which point Japanese-American trade was present. That puts Nintendo in reach of American sailors. Levi's was founded in the west coast port city of San Francisco as workwear. This makes it plausible for a laborer to wear them while working as a deckhand or other skilled labor job where they may pick up a taste for Japanese card games while gambling in Japan. If they find themselves on the Atlantic route any time in the southeast and they're likely to run into coca cola which was a refreshing and energizing beverage owing to the sugar, caffeine, and cocaine. If they keep some bottles on board for a special occasion they may very well have some left by the time they arrive in England where Brahm Stoker is writing Dracula.

Now, why is a Gothic writer gambling in a Japanese game with an American sailor and noticing his curious pant choice? I couldn't tell you enough about Stoker to say if that's normal, but add some emotional abuse and a bisexual baccanal and it sounds exactly like some Lord Byron bullshit and Percy Shelley may join in.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Samurai, gunslingers, and pirates are even more reasonable. There was an age of piracy located in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico a few decades before the wild west. They're unlikely to be fighting at the time, but as New Orleans settles down it's plausible that a pirate may want to open a saloon or brothel outside the reach of the government and polite society. During the wild west the Japanese government underwent the Meiji Restoration which ended the feudal system and put a lot of samurai out of work (they had a rebellion about it). A samurai deciding to hop a ship to America to seek ronin work is something I feel like i would've heard if it had happened, but it is within the realm of "yeah I wouldn't question if a mostly reputable source said it happened". And well I suppose one or two western style gunslingers may have been in the West at the time.

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 weeks ago

On earth? Yes. Within traveling distance by sail? Also yes.

[–] Katrisia@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

Colonization made strange things happen. Once, for example, Spain recruited indigenous warriors from Tlaxcala (Central Mexico, allies of theirs since their battles against the Mexicas/"Aztecs") and went to the Philippines, and there they fought Japanese pirates and samurais, basically.

Accurate info here.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

How is this not already a movie?

[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Abraham Lincoln could have sent a fax to a samurai

[–] Avenging5@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

i'd watch it

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pirates? The heyday of pirates in the Caribbean was around 1700, during the Spanish Succession Wars, IIRC. (Okay, I went to Wikipedia to be sure and it says the time from 1650 to the 1730s is considered the Golden Age of piracy)

To be sure, piracy still exists in various places in the world even today, e.g. near the Horn of Africa or the Straits of Malacca. But it seems odd to date it to the late 19th century...🤔

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Golden age of piracy for the western world ended in the 18th century, but piracy in the China and Indian sea was booming in the 19th century.

There was a us military action in Korea in 1875. During that expedition you could reasonably have had a western gunslinger have a run in with Japanese samurai and Chinese pirates? Not sure how Dracula gets worked into the scene though.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But were these Chinese pirates anything like we think of western pirates, with peg legs and hook hands and eye patches and parrots and walking planks? I imagine that’s what we’re thinking of in the RPG party we’re assembling. Though much of that would have been fiction as well.

Now I’m thinking of the Archer episodes where he becomes pirate king.

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