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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

When it comes to Stefan Mueller it seems they auditioned for the most Nazi-ish looking guy they could find.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

while technically not the onion, its still satire and belongs here

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

and pundits say Ukraine has fascist problem. there is a difference between clowns in the media saying stupid shit and clowns holding office to abuse their power.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Ukraine does have a Nazi problem, but that doesn't justify Russia's land grab

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

it's much more complicated than that. i don't want to turn this thread into a flame war so i'll try my best to contextualize my point.

foreign media have consistent pattern of putting together Ukrainian nationalists and actual nazis. It's not even an oversimplification - it's basically apples and oranges kind of thing. While they both are on the right wing spectrum, they are so far apart - nationalists are basically centrist as most of them stand for gradual continuous transformation of state institutions through multi-stage reforms. The biggest political nationalist organization of the past People's Movement (Narodny Rukh) was like that and even they had limited representation within state institutions. The thing is - Ukrainian politicians for the most part use nationalism as a gimmick to get into offices and do their shady dealings under guise of greater good "for the people long term let it play out" bullshit. European Solidarity led by former president Poroschenko are like that, current ruling party Servant of the People is like that, long-running populist cockroach Tymoschenko's Fatherland is literally a clickbait party that just want to hold office and steal money and they will publicly say whatever helps them with that. Even former eastern juggernaut Party of Regions used the same rhetorics while literally being a bunch of robber barons feigning legitimacy mixed with full-on collaboration. Now these guys are a problem because they can bullshit their way into decision making.

the other big thing is how nationalists and nazis define nation. nazi goes for ethnic-only definition which is fucking stupid in a historically multi-national state - their whole shtick is literally meaningless the moment you look at the ethnic layout of Ukraine through the ages until now. So we group together these sets of people who live here - Boykos, Polischuks, Lemkos, Bukovinians, Slobozhan as Ukrainians because the language is somewhat common but Kirimli, Romanians, Hungarians, Jews, Poles, Greeks, even russians etc - they also live here but they don't count and don't belong even though they're born and raised here, living here, paying taxes, doing business, literally dying to protect their homes - their whole thing falls apart quite fast because of that. Meanwhile modern nationalists define nation as political entity first bound by society, culture and territory - which is a far cry from traditional definition of nationalism. I hope I cleared this up.
These days nazis get their media exposure because they are at the frontlines fighting the enemy. basically, they exploit noble cause privilige to push their agenda but their attempts to capitalize on their newfound notorious come with mixed success and there is always a moment when the media personality with nazi leanings says something stupid and fades away. Back in the yanukovych era - those guys were literally brought to political talk shows to says wild shit so that everybody else could go - see these guys are krayzee. that's the moden nazi media cycle in Ukraine. Politically, nazis consistently lost elections on every level, they have no representation within government institutions and have niche public support that mostly exists on social media within their bubbles. And any time they actually found their way into public offices in the regions - it ended being a same old corrupt mess as every other politician - so that's that.

[–] eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

"if you say guns kill people one more time, I will shoot you with a gun and you will, coincidentally, die"

  • night vale rifle association bumper sticker
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck...

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Was gonna say cook it like a hibachi chef but I guess they gotta start somewhere

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 31 points 18 hours ago
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Stephen Miller was what Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris would have grown into if they hadn't shot up Columbine and taken their own lives.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago

Fascist regimes have classic, telltale traits, like vilifying immigrants, adopting patriotic symbolism of their nation’s glorious past, embracing a narrow definition of masculinity and family values, and striving for economic and diplomatic self-sufficiency. But just because we also do all of those things does not make us fascists.

This is fantastic writing.

And it’s not just calling us fascists—any defamatory language, like saying we’re “bigots,” or “scumbags,” or “walking sacks of bile who decided to make their self-loathing everyone else’s problem” should earn you a life sentence. Republicans don’t engage in that sort of behavior, and the only way to restore our country to order is to punish those who do.

So, stop claiming that we want to deny you freedom of expression; otherwise, we’ll have no choice but to take that freedom away.

Just outstanding. I'd send it to a MAGAt in my life if I thought there was even a chance they get it.

[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Just because I can’t name the head of Antifa (or any other prominent member of Antifa) off the top of my head doesn’t mean they aren’t a highly coordinated terrorist organization.

Fantastic satire

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Oh, the irony

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 61 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No onion here. They are saying shit like that.

[–] s@piefed.world 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Modern satire is just statement of facts in a direct way, probably since the news media isn’t doing that

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world -4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That isn't satire. There is no wit, no irony and no sarcasm. Stating direct facts is simply reporting the news.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The media has failed its duty to report the news, allowing satire to mock them by simply saying the words the media is too weak to speak, and you say there's no irony? The comedic fake newspaper is more legitimate than the actual news - the irony is virtually palpable.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Too weak to speak. Too bought and paid for.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 points 18 hours ago

A weakness of integrity, correct.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Wait is this theonion or nottheonion? I'm not even sure anymore.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Yes. It's non isn't.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 15 points 20 hours ago

That sounds pretty fascist to me....

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Miller just looks like someone who is angry at the whole world because he was bullied when he was a child.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

He's a psychopath even from when he was a teenager. On Reddit they had videos when was ranting in his teen years.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 23 hours ago (4 children)
[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 13 points 23 hours ago

Dude is 40 going on 55. Evil rots from within.

[–] Kolonel_Kahlua@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Those eyes are fucking deceased is what they are.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

He sold his soul to a demon, that's why

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda reminds me of Vladimir Putin when he was younger

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago

Look up Benito Mussolini, twins.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago

What a fucking loser

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

I was bullied as a child, and I'm still only mad at bullies like this CHUD

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller has said this verbatim

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Glad that young attorney got that asshole out of politics.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 11 points 23 hours ago

What a ~~odd~~ fascist thing to say

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI

Watch with subtitles if you don't speak German

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Fuck off, fascist.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So, what does the free speech absolutist say about that?

death to pinko scum! Protect the children! Get me kill team dispatch!

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago