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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 40 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

So regardless of the fact that it's about an optical connector here, and hence completely nonsensical, gold is actually a worse conductor of electricity than copper or silver. The point of gold plated connectors is not so much to improve the immediate audio quality, but to prevent oxidation of the connector over time, which can degrade quality and lead to bad contact. Gold is a noble metal, so doesn't oxidize. I would think most audiophiles know this?

I used to have to replace the cable of my electric guitar every few years because the sound would get crackly or drop out intermittently, I eventually got one with gold plated 6.35mm plug and I'm still using that same cable 15 years later.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago

You are correct; the point of gold plated contacts is anti-corrosion and long service life not for absolute highest conductivity.

I'm a ham radio operator; I have some silver-plated antenna connectors, because antenna feedlines are dealing with extremely weak signals on receive, so any loss you can eliminate in the connector the better. Problem is they corrode to hell everywhere they aren't tightly screwed together. For consumer AV equipment the signals are basically never weak enough to bother with that.

I would think most audiophiles know this?

They're not marketing to audiophiles. They're marketing to dudes and dads. They aren't trying to get the guy hooking a manual turntable up to a tube amplifier, they're trying to get the guy attaching a PS5 to an LG TV to a Sonos soundbar. They're going for the guy who is spending middle class money on AV equipment without bothering to understand it.

Wish I'd thought of it.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Toslink is optical, right?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

And I think the gold and silver parts are usually just plastic.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I miss when being an audiophile was just using vintage equipment and/or opting for lossless formats over compressed mp3s.

Gold plated connections have a point, it prevents corrosion extending the life of the cable. Whether you think it worth that price is another thing entirely.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There's always been a group of audiophiles with more money than sense. To the point that "audiophile" almost feels like an insult to me, and I'm a man who...well...loves his audio. They should have a word for that.

[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

Audio enthusiast

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Audiophiles are the stupidest conceited fools who have ever been parted from their money.

Don't forget your Audiophile grade cat5e cables for your NAS! Plug them in the right way though so the arrows point away from the NAS!

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Unidirectional cables are very silly. I fixed a 300 foot unidirectional HDMI installed backwards during construction. I had to army crawl over ductwork.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

For HDMI this is common with active optical cables.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I can imagine directional active cables, but not passive ones.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Directional cables kind of make sense in an analogue, single-ended connection if it’s about the shielding being connected to ground only on one side… although I haven’t tried it in practice. Still, it has nothing to do with signal directionality, just noise rejection. The ground lift switch on some devices does the same.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I have no idea what the fuck this meme is about. I gather from the comments it's something to do with audio stuff? Why is this cable bad? What the fuck is it even supposed to be? I'm so confused

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The cable is fiber optic, which is to say light. Light don't care about gold and silver. The highly polished lens bit is probably also bullshit, but at least light cares about lenses.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The gold isn't there to conduct anything, it's there to prevent corrosion, gold doesn't rust or tarnish.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Neither does the plastic that these cables normally are made of.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

More generally, it’s not that cables are bad, it’s that audiophiles have way more money than sense. I’m not exaggerating when i say that I’ve seen short speaker cables sell for £6,000. Anything more than £5 will be of exactly the same quality as the £5 cable. You could maybe argue me up to £15-20.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago (7 children)

My favorite story along these lines...

Someone compared Monster cables to un-bent coat hangers.

https://gizmodo.com/audiophile-deathmatch-monster-cables-vs-a-coat-hanger-363154

"Seven songs were played while the group was blindfolded and the cables swapped back and forth. Not only “after 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire,” but no one knew a coat hanger was used in the first place."

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a classic.

A few years back in a HiFi - fair there was a seller who pushed these fist sized wooden blocks that were meant to raise the cables off the ground and therefore "prevent the Earth itself from tampering with the signal".

So he was basically trying to sell very expensive magic wood.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Earth: look at my mighty magnetic field that pushes back the very radiation of the sun!

Wooden block: hold my beer

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 points 19 hours ago

But do coat hangers hold up to repeated use ?

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's a classic and I am glad it see it passed around again. The best part is the people that start delving into the snake oil absurdity that is "audiophile cables" before, you know, getting better actual speakers/headphones. Like for fucks sake, your $200 fancy cable isn't going to make your bullshit bargain bookshelf speaker into the voice of god. Just get some half way decent equipment and listen to your actual music.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worked at a big box electronics store back in the day. Problem was we only sold two kinds of cables.

1 - shitty cables with the ends crimped on that will fall off after three uses.

2 - way overpriced gold plated cables that cost 10x or more.

I'd love it if we sold something in-between, but you absolutely could tell the difference between those options. Mostly cause the RCA ends didn't make an actual decent connection to the equipment, so it wiggled around and induced static into the signal.

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[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have friends that are hardcore record collectors of obscure 70s punk, power pop, glam, etc. They have Marantz receivers and top of the line turntables, setups that approach like 10 grand. Then they listen to some of the most poorly recorded, cheaply pressed vinyl you can imagine.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Um you mean greatest music ever made vinyl SIR. The hiss and pop is part of the experience!

Seriously though, I love old punk records, especially when you can find self pressed shit from the 70s. Yea the quality sucks but god damn I’d rather hear that than overproduced, built by focus group crap today /rant

[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 4 points 22 hours ago

Tbf. many Marantz receivers sound fucking awesome. Although mine's from the 90s and cost me ~80€. Still blows anything I compare it to out of the water. A modern 1000€ Bluesound Powernode I used to have sounded anaemic in comparison. As a collector of obscure punk and prog vinyl I think it sounds best on a Frankensteined together system with some character that allows you to crank it loud.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yup, there is a lot of snake oil in the audiophile world. The worst instance I saw was someone posting about an intermittent buzz in their system. Multiple people were recommending a full rebuild, (which would cost thousands of dollars). From what they described, it was pretty obvious that OP just needed a ~10¢ ferrite bead on a power cable, to make it stop acting as an antenna.

I was like “okay, you could try rebuilding your entire system like everyone else is suggesting… But maybe start with a ferrite bead. Here is a link for a multipack on Amazon. Worst case scenario, you’re only out like $5. And even if it doesn’t fix this specific case, the multipack is handy to have around anyways, because manufacturers often cheap out and skip adding them when their devices really do need them.” Like three days later, I got a “holy shit this actually worked. You just saved me thousands of dollars (and a ton of time) on a complete rebuild.”

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious about other cases where ferrites are actually useful. I have done some access point installations where I was required to loop a patch cable through a ferrite for each. The majority of APs I install don't get this treatment. Is it bullshit? I assumed it was, but of course I used them anyway.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Was this in a radio station (or was someone nearby acting as a radio operator, like a police station or dispatch center), by chance? Or maybe in a lab setting where they may have gear that is affected by interference? They tend to be picky about RF interference, and Ethernet can be fairly noisy on certain RF bands. In that case, the ferrite bead was likely to do the exact opposite; They wanted to stop the Ethernet cables from acting as an antenna and broadcasting RF interference.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

Yes, all the ones I've installed that required ferrites were in hospitals or clinics.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago

Classic issue and I am a bit shocked they hadn't run into it before, I had figured that out when i was a teen with my first stereo setup. I am also not surprised at all that they were recommended to fully rebuild lmao

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

The one good use of Monster cables I saw was a buddy who played guitar and was pretty energetic in his sets and not disciplined enough to take proper care of his cables.

Monster cables really were pretty tough compared to the cheap stuff, but the bigger deal was the lifetime free replacements. He bought 2 Monster cables for 1/4 cable to his amp, and when one broke he'd swap to the backup while waiting on the replacement in the mail.

[–] BaconWrappedEnigma@lemmy.nz 246 points 1 day ago (37 children)

Is that an optical cable with gold plating to improve the electrical connection?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 164 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's called SCIENCE sweaty

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[–] Darth_Brooks@lemmy.world 178 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I once had a Best Buy sales person tell me "the improved shielding helps with magnetism". I stared at him for a sec and said "if there is enough magnetism in my house to bend light, how my stereo sound really won't be one of my main concerns"

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Hey man, you realize everytime you turn on your stereo your couch starts sliding towards it?

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[–] Cornflake@pawb.social 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah yeah, you know the gold plated connections make all the difference for the fiber optic connection

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just as important is what they connect to. You know the plastic part it connects to inside whatever device you are connecting to. Same concept when monster cables were a thing, the gold plated connectors that connect to the back of your tv using plastic and undefined metal.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Gold plating is used to prevent corrosion, not optimize conductivity. It matters only for the longevity of the cable.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago

Abs is a type of plastic, ergo an insulator.

The biggest impact I ever saw was an electrical filter for advanced audio systems. It’s basically an alternator. And it was the most impressive piece of any audio system I sold.

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