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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Showed up here a month later. The link is dead. Can anybody find this again? I already looked on the web archive. It's not there.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Wack. Here it is.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Flawed rhetoric. Tech bros read Lord of the Rings and think "Sure, those guys got corrupted by the ring, but I could handle it."

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Even worse. They'd brag about being the first one to reach a new level of corruption.

[–] KraeuterRoy@feddit.org 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We knows how to handle the precioussssss!

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Which is the problem with them. They think themselves better and idolize the heroes but don’t look at the why they are heroes. Gandalf could have carried the ring but refused because he knew what corruption would bring. Aragorn is the typical masculine hero stereotype in fighting a war and getting the girl in the end. But even he refused because it wasn’t right for him to carry and all of his efforts were to be a distraction at best.

It was only the continued effort of the smallest people in middle earth that won the day.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

The same types who watch It's Always Sunny / Rick and Morty and see only role models and positive character traits.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tech bros understand Tolkien as well as they understand cyberpunk and star trek

[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

They're big fans. The stories are full of cool names they could use for their companies and projects!

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Along a similar line, guy makes a global surveillance company and calls it Palantir, apparently oblivious to how much of a comic book villain he looks like. Thiel looks at Sauron like "that's so meee".

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tolkien predicted the failure of marketed AI? I'm not surprised, it's a product of human industry and progress, something he was critical about.

I say marketed AI as it's not really AGI, even though it's sold that way. The good/bad news is that actual progress in AGI will have worse results, and current AI is just demonstrating the issues that will crop up without the faster pace and worse destruction AGI could possibly bring. (See the AI alignment problem for details)

But hey... we learn lessons from history, right?

Right??

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I say marketed AI as it’s not really AGI

"it" - being machine learning - is not even AI. Only dumbfucks believe that garbage marketing BS.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It objectively is, same as OCR and fuzzy logic.

It's just that when people hear "artificial intelligence", they think of Lt. Cmdr. Data and not the actual field of research that machine learning is a legitimate part of.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is that the term being used is alike to saying "bread" when referring to pancakes. If this branch of IT was run by sane people, I might not even take such issue with the label. But there's nothing wrong with labeling it machine learning, and all the credible applications do just that, be it for medical analysis or for other targeted applications. The only morons insisting to call machine learning "AI" are the LLM fuckers. And the only thing that is "AI" about LLMs are the input and output filters, which have are coded with actual, deterministic rules (or so I suspect). LLM companies are snake oil vendors, and the users are all helping them ruin the planet, politically and environmentally. And the users need to understand that, or they'll contribute a big part to running us right into the ground. So when someone says "AI", and means machine learning systems, they need to understand there is absolutely nothing "intelligent" about them. Because people are gullible and if the output sounds impressive enough, they - and you can observe that every minute in the real world - they actually believe the software has an understanding of what it is saying. It doesn't. You know that, I know that, but most of the dumb users using LLMs do not. And they need to be reminded every minute until they stop fucking around with it.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's important to know, I feel like, that the Curtis Yarvin acolytes like Peter Thiel know about Tolkien lore and think he simply took the wrong perspectivein writing his tales. They actually think Sauron was a hero and represented the right side of history. They are that fucked up, morally and ethically.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Morgoth is a bitch, we are getting those simarills back one way or another.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The melody requires some discord, but not that much

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Beware any public housing these guys offer, make sure it's not just made out of ice. Not falling for that one again.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. They're the guys who watched Avengers and thought Loki had the right of it - he just went about it too openly.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No thanks on this fantastical take. This kind of hyperbolic rhetoric is part of the "AI" grift. Indistinguishable from like Peter Thiel and similar.

Technology =/= Sauron. Technology is almost exclusively controlled by evil people because of capitalism, but technology is not the part that's inherently evil.

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"[tech bros] don't have evil in [their] heart" [citation needed]

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Techbros themselves think they don't. Doesn't mean it's true.

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

What about the AI that I run on my local GPU that is using a model trained on open source and public works?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's cool as hell to train models don't get me wrong but if you use them as assistants you will still slowly stop thinking no?

So Nazgûl.

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[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like the rings of the Elves to me

[–] mattvanlaw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is very cool. Any advice a simple software engineer (me) could follow to practice the same?

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
  1. Install LM Studio

  2. Tell LM Studio to download the Apertus model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apertus_(LLM)

  3. Bob's ur uncle.

stick to 8B models for video cards with 8GB VRAM.

[–] mattvanlaw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Thanks! I've always wanted an uncle bob, too!

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

your local model wouldn't exist without sauron (openai)

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

People were making LLMs before openai/chatgpt tbf.

It's the "destroy the environment and economy in an attempt to make something that sucks just enough to justify not paying people fairly so you can advertise to rich assholes gambling their generational wealth" that OpenAI invented for the LLMs.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

what are those LLMs you mention that people are still using? never heard of them, sounds like a cop out

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The funniest thing is a security company called "Palantir". If they had actually read the books they'd know how ironic that name is... Or ironically on point.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Irony and satire both require critical thinking beyond the scope of what bigots are capable of because it requires them empathy enough to understand the author's POV; namely that the author is not being literal with their words.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They’re building Mordor in Gaza

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Mordor is New Jersey. Gaza idk, gates of cirith ungol maybe? No more like Sauramen's Isengaard.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] hector@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

None of us can afford gucci black leather shoes, but I feel comfortable judging them anyway, as I can see they are pieces of fucking shit.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Be more like Tom Bombadil America.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They couldn't have read the book

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Sound familiar?

HBO's Game of Thrones?

[–] Zoabrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Analogies like this work because they invite reflection rather than certainty. Tools themselves are neutral — it’s how people choose to use them, and the values they bring with them, that really shape the outcome.

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