Ubuntu is just Debian with extra steps.... and snaps
this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2025
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Which is reason enough to go with Debian (I have an unreasonable issue with snaps).
yeah, snaps.... they should have just gone with appimage I don't like them either, but at least we can all settle on one bag of pain.
I actually wanted to run Ubuntu and then Fedora, but they both kept breaking out of nowhere. I don't know get why people have a more stable experience than I do with these, I don't even fucking tinker and fuck with shit.
Use whatever the fuck you want, you fucking weirdo cultists.
I read it as clits. Just saying.
What other than what you just said are you "just saying"?
This. I'd better use windows then listen to another round of debate Ubuntu vs Arch..
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I use arch btw
I use Kubuntu LTS (--minimal-install; no snap fuckery from get-go) btw.
Garuda is also performing nicely on an older laptop.
If you're a programmer: NixOS.
Define your OS config, which programs to install, and dotfiles in one repo. Install a fresh OS, pull in the repo (nix-shell -p git, because NixOS doesn't come with git >_> ) and run the command to install the whole thing (sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake .#wodan for me. wodan is just the name of a config - I have multiple all combines into one repo, so I can share configuration between machines).
Took me 17 minutes to set up my laptop exactly the same as my Desktop. Same configuration, applications, and OS settings. It's so fucking nice.
With Windows, that used to take 2 days to download and install everything manually.
Only downside: You'll need to learn Nix-the-language, nix-the-os, and nix-the-terminal-program, which took about a month of deeply digging into the Vimjoyer and LibrePhoenix channels.
Just checked my Mint. Why Cinnamon uses so much VRAM? I have over 1GB idle, without anything running. In my Windows i usually have 400Mb with all things closed.
I remember this site
https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
But honestly, although I can't check it, 1GB idle is still far more ram than what I get idle, so you might have some weird program auto-starting and actually eating your ram.
RAM is ok, i have plenty of it. VRAM (Video RAM) is the problem. The RAM of the GPU, used for showing graphics, UI etc.
Oof sorry my bad lol
This is seriously a hot take
Debian since 1998. No reason to change.
that should be their mission statement.
Use Debian. No good reason to change.
βYouβve done a lot of work to make this work. Do you really want more work?ββ’
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Debian gaming wasn't great when a lot of the landscape was changing (around 2016?) and even one of my very Debian friendly colleagues switched his gaming machine to Arch back then because getting the new stuff like AMD Vulkan drivers and DXVK running was really hard on Debian. Don't think he migrated that particular machine back since then.
Prior to bookworm making non-free easy and nvidia driver opening one could make some arguments.
These days, though, nothing compelling can be said to walk past Debian.
Yeah, but the post I replied to said "since 1998". That is prior to bookworm.
Personally, I don't care for it too much. Every time I try it (which is rare) something annoys me. "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"s, deviation from upstream that renders official documentation less valuable. With Arch (which I don't use anymore), you can be pretty sure that what's on your machine is what's currently released by upstream. This refers both to version and the software itself. Remember cdrkit? xscreensaver? The weak OpenSSH keys? Sure, these must notable examples are from long ago, but there were just so many issues over the course of my "career" that the distribution for me is somewhat burned. Also because all of this could have been easily avoided.
Anyhow, use what you want, but it's for sure not my favorite distro.
What about Debian's inability to run Proton 10?
That's what beta is for right?
If you're not using Fedora then fine, I don't care.
Ubuntu sucks
You choose the worst option
It's not that bad but I feel like fedora's probably a better option
Installed 24.04 this week. On the second day my graphical interface was completely borked. Bare in mind I only installed the usual things I need like neovim, appimage support, compilers, etc.
I've used the same installation of Arch, Fedora and Suse on different machines for years in a row without an issue
Why was is borked?
It seems 24.04 is not compatible with the FUSE package provided and you should instead install libfuse2
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This is crazy. You shouldnβt use Ubuntu for anything desktop related. Thereβs nothing vanilla about vanilla Ubuntu.
(Custom Gnome extensions, patches on top of Gnome, custom sandbox packages that donβt always work, custom apt that refuses to install the real packages in place of snaps, paywalled security patches, should I keep going?)
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