211 democrats voted against it. 3 democrats from Texas vote against the Democratic Party by voting with the Republicans.
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“Both sides are the same”
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211 democrats voted against it. 3 democrats from Texas vote against the Democratic Party by voting with the Republicans.
Republican funded propaganda:
“Both sides are the same”
Per the article, one was from North Carolina. I’m also not sure why their location is more relevant than the fact they’re passing legislation that will kill trans kids.
Also, back up, the Advocate is Republican funded propaganda?? lmao
The location is relevant because the only way democrats can win elections in red states is to compromise.
If they don’t compromise at all then the conservative gets elected and it’s full trans genocide.
Defending the “both sides” argument is disingenuous.
You have invented a both sides narrative that isn’t in an article published by a gay magazine that has existed since before the Stonewall riots. Ask yourself why criticism of Democrats from queer people is unacceptable.
The location is relevant because the only way democrats can win elections in red states is to compromise.
Meanwhile, in the article:
Three Democrats, Texas Reps. Henry Cuellar and Vicente Gonzalez, and North Carolina Rep. Don Davis joined all but four Republicans in supporting the bill’s passage. President Donald Trump recently pardoned Cuellar after the congressman was indicted on a dozen charges of bribery, money laundering, and conspiracy.
He sure is compromising for something, alright. But I guess we should be grateful, because if it wasn’t a Democrat voting for letting trans kids die then it would be a Republican making the exact same vote! 🙄
Democrats Reps. Eric Swalwell of California, Lucy McBath of Georgia, and Joe Courtney of Connecticut did not vote. Swalwell is running for governor of California.
Democrats in red states like California and Connecticut have no choice but to refuse to stand up for trans rights if they want to stay electable!
and it’s full trans genocide.
Oh boy, is this the new “if you don’t vote for every Democrat then Republicans will take away abortion!” fundraising and silencing tactic for any criticism of the party?
Anyone who voted for this can kiss my fucking ass and go to hell, and anyone that defends them can too. I don’t give a fuck what excuse they had, anyone that voted for this voted to kill trans kids. I won’t throw trans kids on the pyre in the name of preventing “full” trans genocide (wtf is killing kids, then?!), and there isn’t a combination of words that’s going to make me think that’s okay.
Not a single word in your comments have been devoted to the kids at risk here. Pure politics.
There is no way you can’t tell the difference between the Democratic Party and a few democrats voting against the Democratic Party. You are being disingenuous.
You are either pushing the oldest republican talking point as a shill or you have been tricked by a shill into voting against trans rights.
The Democratic Party voted to stop this bill. A few voted against the Democratic Party. You try to turn the blame onto the Democratic Party. It’s blatant bad faith argument.
There is no way you can’t tell the difference between the Democratic Party and a few democrats voting against the Democratic Party
You mean like how literally every instance of ‘Democrat(s)’ in my previous comment was about individuals and not the party? Can you at least pretend to read what you’re responding to?
You are either pushing the oldest republican talking point as a shill or you have been tricked by a shill into voting against trans rights.
You have literally no idea who I have ever voted for in my life and you’re already comfortable declaring that I’m voting for an anti trans agenda… because I said I won’t vote for someone who voted against trans rights. These mental gymnastics don’t exhaust you?
I’m a former trans youth who tried to kill myself in part because I had no gender affirming anything. I did not ask for and do not need your advice on how to vote for candidates that will fight for my rights.
The Democratic Party voted to stop this bill. A few voted against the Democratic Party. You try to turn the blame onto the Democratic Party
You are trying to have an argument against something nobody here is saying, the entire time completely ignoring that this is a conversation about trans kids. If you have any feelings on the subject beyond “democrat good” nobody here would be able to tell, because all you’ve cared about here is the politics. If you don’t get why that’s fucking gross go take a walk until you do.
You mean like how literally every instance of ‘Democrat(s)’ in my previous comment was about individuals and not the party?
Then use the individuals name and stop blaming the party that voted against this.
Republicans love to cherry pick examples of a trans person doing something then blame the entire trans community. Just like you’re doing with democrats now.
because I said I won’t vote for someone who voted against trans rights
You’re not campaigning against the individuals that voted with the republicans. You’re campaigning against the Democratic Party that voted to stop this. Which is the same as supporting republicans.
I’m a former trans youth who tried to kill myself in part because I had no gender affirming anything. I did not ask for and do not need your advice on how to vote for candidates that will fight for my rights.
I am too. The reason we didn’t get that gender affirming care is too many republicans won. And now you are here blaming democrats for the actions of republicans. You are campaigning against gender affirming care.
You are trying to have an argument against something nobody here is saying, the entire time completely ignoring that this is a conversation about trans kids. If you have any feelings on the subject beyond “democrat good” nobody here would be able to tell, because all you’ve cared about here is the politics. If you don’t get why that’s fucking gross go take a walk until you do.
Politics is what is preventing gender affirming care. If you don’t care about politics, you don’t care about gender affirming care. If you don’t get why that’s gross go take a walk until you do.
If I meant the Democratic Party that’s what I would have said. I literally included the names of the specific Democrats I was talking about in that comment, but now your problem is that I didn’t include individual names (when I did)?
If you’re unsure about what a comment means you can always ask instead of leaping to the worst faith interpretation possible. I even made my statement as specific as possible by saying I won’t vote for people who vote against trans rights and somehow that’s a criticism of the entire Democratic Party as well? It doesn’t seem like there’s a way to criticize any Democrats without you deciding it’s actually both sidesing.
And now you are here blaming democrats for the actions of republicans
I am blaming the fucking Democrats that voted for it because they’re responsible for their own actions! Do you need me to list their names out again, or does your scroll wheel work?
Good luck with kissing the boot of every Democrat that takes a dump on you.
And there it is, the both sides argument fully vindicated.
If we dont allow democrats to run anti-trans campaigns then a republican with the same views but worse will occupy the seat. They're two completely different things!
Do yall ever actually listen to yourselves? This shit is embarrassing to read.
That is how democracy works. Voters get to decide. If the majority of voters are anti trans in a red state guess who gets elected in a red state?
If there were more pro trans voters then shit like this wouldn’t happen. But too many get tricked into being apathetic from this republican talking point “both sides are the same” that you are defending.
If Democrats win elections in Texas by compromising how come their compromising losing asses have been getting beat for 30 plus years?
Are you referring to the fact that democrats have won the majority of elections nation wide since the 90s? Texas doesn’t vote the same as the national average. Pretty simple.
My you sure are jumping around a lot. A second ago it was Democrats in Texas have to act different to win, which they don't do, and now we're switching back to National. That's weird. Why'd you bring up Democrats in Texas at all if you're going to be talking about National stuff?
A second ago it was Democrats in Texas have to act different to win, which they don't do
This article is about democrats from Texas voting against the Democratic Party. It’s pretty straight forward. I can’t understand it for you.
They aren't the same but they certainly do have A LOT of overlap. Especially when it comes to bills protecting and benefitting the rich.
That overlap isn’t between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.
It is overlap between individual democrats like Manchin, Sinema, Fetterman etc. and the Republican Party.
I would like to fully agree but they always seem to find enough slips to pass some egregious bills through.
Situations like the Panama papers and the Epstein files have shown us that the rich and powerful that own our politicians have people killed to get their way.
What you’re describing is the rich and powerful influencing individual politicians to get legislation they want. Not and agreement between all members of the Democratic Party.
Are you talking specifically about non-financial social issues specifically? Because yes, you're right, there's a huge divide. But when it comes to politicians furthering their own career they both run pretty much the same - taking donations and bribes via lobbying.

Do you also believe that only the congresspeople retiring this year voted to end the government shutdown?
Democrats have publicly floated the idea of throwing trans people under the bus several times this year.
So yes, both parties same.
The party didn’t just people voting against the Democratic Party. This article is one of many examples of that.
Republican shills push the “both sides” argument to sow apathy in pro trans voters. Now trans people are being robbed of their gender affirming care. If you actually cared about trans people you would be trying to rally people to vote in the best interest of trans people.
While I agree with you that they aren't the same and it's propaganda. Henry Cuellar did have board party support despite being a pro life, right wing member of the party. The party pushed against primaries, despite his corruption charges and misalignment with the rest of the party, and especially the populace.
While there were only three Texas Democrats voting for it, the party continues to prop them up, helping them win elections knowing their politics.
Yeah it's not a mono party, but Democrats also do a terrible job at beating the allegations sometimes.
That’s how democracies work unfortunately. If republicans have the majority in a red state then democrats have to cater to them to have any chance of winning.
The only way to change this is to change the consensus on trans rights among voters. Blaming politicians for doing what their constituents tell them to doesn’t make sense.
This completely ignores propaganda that is causing the problem in the first place. Why do people feel that trans rights is even a problem?
Democracies can't function properly if the citizens are being misinformed and lied to about issues that don't even affect them.
Blaming politicians for politicizing and manufacturing a non-existent problem and then scapegoating people is entirely fair. Why it is legal to take away people's rights through outright lies is beyond me.
Why it is legal to take away people's rights through outright lies is beyond me.
Because not enough voters showed up to prevent republicans from winning.
We have to protect people's rights. Whether or not someone has bodily autonomy isn't up to the political winds. This is an inalienable right that apparently has to be spelled out by law.
Not that I think it will happen, after all we never even ratified the Equal Rights Amendment. There has been something seriously wrong with the US from the beginning.
You don't need more than that. Why have more people switch if that saves face for the rest of the party so fanatics like you can use that to defend them.
All this while people get dragged off the streets btw.
This is lemmy. Nuanced discussion is not allowed here.
Motherfucker they are Democrats always have people who will vote with Republicans every fucking time. But any bill that could help the American people, you never see Republican doing the same.
Billionares use citizens united to buy politicians. That is the actions of billionares not the Democratic Party. You are trying to redirect blame off of billionares and onto the Democratic Party. Obvious bad faith argument.
Three Democrats, Texas Reps. Henry Cuellar and Vicente Gonzalez, and North Carolina Rep. Don Davis joined all but four Republicans in supporting the bill’s passage.
All of those names have been added to the Menu. Anyone who violates the freedom, liberty, or fundamental rights of others have given up all of their own, and we, the People, will come to collect.
we need an instance for a master list. names, addresses, their crimes. and maybe even active schedules and tracking information. phone numbers, emails, friends, family members, etc. live updates.
we need to make them fear us more than they love money.
Fuck
the U.S. House passed a bill that would make doctors and parents criminals... It now goes to the Senate, where it is unlikely to pass.
The news is very bad, but its never quite as bad as the headline wants you to believe.
Yep. Lots of things pass the House, and very few manage to get through the Senate. And I find it unlikely that this would be the thing they kill the filibuster over
That’s weird, liberals keep telling me how different the two parties are.
Same donors, same team.
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
Please stick around, there are people who want you here.
yes, the capitalists who wish to extract our labour and surplus.
But trust me bro Democrats will defeat fascism bro. They are definitely not in cahoots trust me bro, just vote bro. Don't revolt. Just vote trust.
BlUe No MaTtEr WhO!!!111
No thank you.
Yeah… fuck the 211 democrats that voted against it, right? Your best interests are better reflected in the bigger picture-
Which is apparently fighting against those that are trying to defend it.
Three democrats fires in favor. THREE.
And by the way, where are your third party candidates in this?
"Democrats' support"
It was three shit heads not the majority. Dumb fucking headline.
I read this as "decriminalizing" the first time and was like wow she's really leaning into this about-face